Noel Tyl
Astrology => General Astrology Discussion => Topic started by: Stacy on March 15, 2018, 09:13:24 PM
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Before I present my question, I will give a brief description of what route Uranus will take when it enters Taurus in my chart.
First, it will square my Mars-Sat from it's 6th house position [health issues] as it creeps along towards each of the planets in my stellium. I have already been feeling the effects with multiple unusual and surprising health crises.
Then, it will oppose Neptune in h. 12 and my ASC. for more anticipated health challenges. With Taurus, let's be realistic...
Sometime during these aspects will be Uranus4 sq Mercury8. It is Natal, so end of life via surgery is a very likely possibility.
And IF I should live long enough for Uranus to square N Uranus [4th h. ruler], well, we know what that would likely suggest.
Now, we know we can see events in our lives via the charts of loved ones and family members. Uranus will conjoin Mercury in one sibling's charts at about the same time it will square the same in the other's chart. While these transits are occurring, Uranus will square my N Saturn, 3rd h. ruler. This is a lot of sibling activity, indeed!
So: whose chart is impacted? Can I expect a major event as signified by Mercury hard aspects in their charts, or do events happen to them based on the activation of my 3rd h. ruler? Both?
thanks,
Stacy
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Stacey transiting uranus will form negative aspects in my chart in 2020-2021 Uranus will oppose my natal mars in the 11th house and square natal venus in my 8th house-mars rules the 4th house, co-rules my 12th with pluto and venus rules my 5th, 6th and 10th houses so I am really wondering what this will bring AMY
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I am not convinced that this is a very wise line of inquiry, though I'd agree it might be better for others to comment and effects to be read as much or more in the charts of those close to the inquirer. There are so many variables. However, I would say that if one must pursue this line it would be better to certify, frame and interpret even what seem like strongly suggestive transits within the borders and times given by eclipses and lunations to a chart...thus for health and right now in the wake of the Feb Aquarius eclipse in my sixth plus the lunar eclipse affecting my Leo Mars/Pluto, I am suitably due next week to have a cataract removed.
However, what is possible is that May will prove a crisis-making turning point for the world at large in such a way as might put stress on your health and/or treatment for same. Last year astrologer Jessica Adams issued a striking article to the effect May 2018 is "the month that changes everything". Her perspective is especially economic. There are other possibilities... but just consider what a really major economic meltdown or a super quake could suddenly do to health care. I have a few things to say (speculate) about May in a blog article that includes a link to the Adams article, see https://wp.me/p2v96G-ZR. But I think that no matter what we try to forecast, a golden rule for dealing with especially transits of or to Uranus is "expect the unexpected". Accordingly, while you seem to be pinpointing some element of crisis for you, I think it is tricky to be too definite about what it is and just how and why it would come about.
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Amy:
It's like Noel says about making the astrology fit our situation, sorta. If you don't have any medical crises, then I wouldn't worry. If, however, you have many many with the list growing in severity weekly as I do, then the astrology fits [my reality].
Be glad if you have nothing pressing ;).
Stacy
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Rollenarm:
Censorship of my concerns?
And, BTW, I have noted how the recent August SE and Feb. eclipse hit very prominent points and planets in my chart. Everything seems to be a hotspot; activated. Looking ahead to about 2020 shows no reprieve, from what I can see. It would take many strong, positive, lengthy transits to come close to offsetting the reality as indicated in my chart.
If you are trying to suggest prayer or other astrological remedial efforts, I can buy that and do what I can, though the astrologer in me wants to see first and foremost what is indicated. It's pretty clear, too. If you could witness my life you would agree with my observations.
Aside from that, not sure I am following your line of thought. Would it have been more acceptable if I asked a question for an anonymous person or a celebrity and broached it by saying "What is in store for Jane Smith if you were her astrologer?", for example? Is the issue of our mortality disturbing to you?
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I was only trying to be helpful. Even without actual fears of mortality, there is a danger of getting fixated and morbid about the theme, even almost making it happen. As said, there are always or usually variables and some people told by doctors they have only a few months have lasted half a lifetime. So, like doctors, astrologers must be careful and for objectivity it is probably best to bring others in rather than depend on one's own impressions alone. And I do think that crises of the more extreme sort like especially curtains may actually register more in data for near of kin. In short.... I am talking about maximum objectivity, not "censorship" - perhaps one needs to be an Aquarian to quite see that in my comments!
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Yes, I considered that before I posted (not wanting to attract a negative outcome by focusing on it vs. wanting astrological answers). But, I believe the dye is cast regardless; just a matter of degree now.
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rollanrm:
i do find it confusing that the recent thread on "Suicide" didn't seem to bother you as inappropriate (I think it is appropriate, too). Just trying to understand your resistance to my thread...
Stacy
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Love your new word, Dean! Clever ;). Accurate.
Yes, so true that with Uranus we should expect the unexpected. Blast, I would really like to plan sometimes and have it go smoothly, but ya know the saying "Man plans and the gods laugh."
Thank you so much for educating us more about Saturn in Aquarius. Yes, I can see that clearly in myself, but especially after you shared your story about your father. (BTW, 85 to me is a good long life! though I know you have had some scares recently. Sending you and your family all the best...You are a good son :)))
And a good friend~
Stace
p.s. don't know if this clarifies my original post/intent, but I have faced reality, and in my case I believe I know where that reality is headed. Some of us just aren't meant to live past 60, young as that sounds. And maybe my Saturn in Aquarius is part of my natal depressive signature, and with a lack of a strong support system presently (am working on it!), and the further deterioration of my already fragile health---honestly, some people want our bodies to give out early. Trying to refrain from being too morbid ;); it would be different and I have hopes it will be with the success of some plans I have put in play recently. Don't want to say too much, but am working on relocating closer to my estranged sister to a town I used to live in and love, and where I actually have the chance to create a fulfilling support system for my last years. Lotta work ahead of me! There's nothing for me where I live presently--time to move on. Uranus does rule my 4th house, after all...
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Didn't even think of that, Dean. Going to bed soon for an early start to a busy Monday, but will ck in late tomorrow.
New, old place is Yucca Valley, CA. About 20 min. north of Palm Springs, to give you some bearing. I just love the desert, and my psychic-medium pal lives there, too. I hope to be out of here within 90 days from about 2 weeks ago when the idea hit me and I started the ball rolling.
If you don't get to it, no pressure. Can fiddle around with in, myself. But looking forward to your comments :).
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Dean:
Relocated ASC. is 20 Scorpio---and all planets remain in same houses as natal chart. For time parameters I just used today's date since you can't input a series of dates. However, am guessing you will progress the chart?
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Dean---update!
Pass on Yucca Valley. Sis emailed overnight and they moved to Banning, Riverside county, CA, so that's where I will focus.
Will ck in this evening.
Stace
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Amazing, Dean.
So many basic, and also not-so-common points you make that I hadn't considered but now make so much sense.
I wasn't seeing the obvious T Jup connection with a potential move yet, just to obvious affects to my physical health.
Yes, T Uranus--especially from my 6th, is indeed the wild card and which has me on pins and needles. But, it's going to be a long and bumpy ride I simply must hold on through. Patience not a virtue of Uranus's, or mine! but perserverance is.
Very funny you mention the possible job instability of my sis and her husband because that is why they sold their house in Yucca Valley and downsized: her long-time job was reduced to p/t. They did well, bought a nice mobile home in a nice park outright, but she is a few years away from retirement though he is retired.
Practically speaking, they both do stand to receive another large inheritance when his elderly relatives pass being an only child, etc. so I believe they will be ok financially. They each have T Uranus in the 7th though, so that's an obvious concern.
I feel any move at this point in my life would be beneficial so am just going with it. I really have no other options: stay or die, literally and otherwise. I agree. I think the future will take care of itself, and one step at a time. Uranus makes me nervous because of the 6th house position. Not just the squares coming up to Saturn and the rest my stellium, but the opposition to NE-ASC. Going to be a factor for the rest of my life. N Mars-Sat is also Inconjunct my prominent Uranus--one of the "health aspects". Not to underestimate that SA Saturn which I had failed to notice. My old astrology teacher always cautioned what a "rock n roll time to expect" when a planet changes from that degree especially. And it rules my siblings, as you note.
Just cut & pasted your reporting into my files to refer to often. Thank you for the obvious huge amount of time and effort you put into helping me with what is my life's predicament, Dean. Especially with T Saturn hitting your own chart right now.
Stace
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Dean, All:
Your several Jupiter references got me thinking. Even more than the significance you presented. Even more than the original weight gain to my physical body during the original pass.
My retired Spiritualist pastor friends in AZ are actually in Africa on safari (not the kind where you hunt animals). Still in their 70's and going strong. My pal emailed me after she asked a highly respected shaman about my health, unknown to me. The first message gave me a little ceremony to perform and some other suggestions. Then last night a brutally honest one came thru saying "Your friend is extremely ill but there are things she can do while still in this lifetime; think better choices, etc." I was stunned.
Their long-distance trip is obviously Jupiter, but so are they as pastors, and the shaman, and all higher thinking, religion and learning. So T Jupiter in my ASC is more far-reaching than first thought.
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Your several Jupiter references got me thinking... Even more ... Even more ...
"When times are quiet it is easy to take action; ere coming troubles have cast their shadows, it is easy to lay plans. That which is brittle is easily broken, that which is minute is easily dissipated. Take precautions before the evil appears, regulate things before disorder has begun. The greatest tree sprang from the tiniest shoot. The tallest tower rose from a little mound of earth. A Journey of a thousand miles began with a single step. A great principle cannot be divided, therefore many containers cannot contain it."
Tao Te Ching
"And last, there is death. It is understandable that, in a civilization which separates mind from body, we should try and forget death or make mythologies about the survival of transcendent mind. But if mind is immanent, not only in those pathways of information which are located within the body but also within external pathways, then death takes on a different aspect. The individual nexus of pathways which I call "me" is no longer so precious because that nexus is only part of a larger mind. The ideas which seemed to be me can also become immanent in you. May they survive - if true."
Gregory Bateson
Stacy, the living world can be seen as sacred according to Bateson. We can obtain a certain reverence for the natural beauty of the world and its inhabitants without appealing to the supernatural. He called this "grace" or connecting with the "sacred." With Jupiter coming through loud and clear in the first quarter houses of your chart your antennae appear alert. Engagement with your environment and seeing beyond the decay, seeing the possibilities, ARE a "choice." Even your packed third house can be, or especially will be helpful in this regard. You, as a powerful example to a sibling in awe of your determination. A focus (whose etymology means family, domestic hearth, etc.) on coming together and connecting when times are hardest. If the information of your condition can travel the world then surely you can tap into transits ahead, ahead of time. Empowering your relations and connection within community. With such Amazing Grace at hand what sort of example would you like to make, what idea or imprint can you leave behind, what will you let live on within us and others that is a part of you?
All the best,
HVA
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Perhaps, Tim, perhaps about much on earth vs. the supernatural. But I don't think it has to be one or the other. My 8th house ruler's condition shows my interest in astrology and other esoteric subjects. All of them interest me.
"THERE ARE MORE THINGS IN HEAVEN AND EARTH, HORATIO, THAN ARE DREAMT OF IN YOUR PHILOSOPHY" Shakespeare.
I think, as we get closer to that major time/transition, we start to think of more other-worldly things and less with materialism/ego. For example, selling my beloved Hyundai last summer. First time since age 15 1/2 I have been without my own car. Sold it at the SE where my 3rd house was involved. That was a hard adjustment, but now washing and waxing and worrying about things I used to seems silly--to me. Not knocking any of you. My future is limited and that's ok. I have lived a life! Traveled (enough); bought several new cars and my dream properties; worked in a prestigious career and made good $$; had lots of bfs ;); lots of ffs over the course of my life. Our family has loved one another and I know can again. No regrets...
My "legacy" I would hope is obvious (if you check out my facebook site as James knows): I LOVE LOVE LOVE animals though I have felt called to be an activist for many causes, many years ago, and in many ways. Even if it's helping a stranger or neighbor who is having trouble with an agency and I know what to do about it. "I AM ONLY HERE TO BE TRULY HELPFUL", The Course in Miracles. THAT is one thing I do know---"Help thy brother's boat across and lo, thine own has reached the shore." It's more important for me to feed the stray cat who comes around then hurry to my driver who is impatient to get me to my doctor app. I can no longer physically volunteer so I send what bit I can each month to the animal rescue group of my choice. So many! And I posted there that my biggest accomplishment was becoming VEGAN about 3 months ago after trying for 20 years !!
I don't claim to be Mother T, etc. Just trying to fulfill the promise of my chart. And with all that resistance, it ain't easy! Maybe that's the point. ??
Today, and other days, I end up in tears while talking to my psychologist. He was stunned the first time that happened after many years. My Mars-Saturn can keep tears in at the most emotional funeral. Most people see that part of me (Mars-Sat) not the tears and vulnerable soft under belly. So they judge based on that. I am sure you have been seeing all the commercials, "Don't judge a book by it's cover". We know that oldie is a goody still.
We all have different charts; different goals and life plans and priorities. That's why I don't expect most people to understand mine.
What a surprise for a Sag Moon with prominent Uranus and Aquarius, eh?
I appreciate the time you took and your thoughts, Tim, and ponder further. But first --BED after a brutal day! ;)
Stacy
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But first, a P.S. (always is one with my 3rd house!!)
People blessed with family, one good friend, children, parents, health, etc. simply do not get my reality. I am truly too embarrassed to share a typical day/week in the life of Stacy. It would stun most of you to realize the level of simply being cut off from most of society. And I don't need pity and don't share it for that purpose.
Between 2-4am usually I am in bed with the laptop active, reading bios. of deceased celebrities. I like to know about their final days. How they coped. Who they turned to. Or, a play list if my favorite songs from my day that remind me of bfs, friends, happier times, etc. Like James, I don't sleep thru the night. And I have too much pride really to give a laundry list of the medical ailments that keep me up.
And the readings I get from shamans/psychic-mediums and healings from church elders are so meaningful to me; give me a hope and peace that would not be there otherwise.
So, as a few wise people have suggested lately, am trying to make 'good choices; until I go.
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Thanks...
My interpretation at least so far is not so much Earth vs Supernatural, but rather it is ALL quite natural. Your friends communication with the African shaman, and his ability to glean information from the ether, the other side of earth for example, is only natural, not supernatural. We ascribe some sort of magic to the process when if we didn't think of it like that then the process might be more accessible to us.
You have that gift. AND I think are perhaps poised to realize more of that gift.
And maybe it is trending. My daughter is working in the ICU of a large hospital. A patient recently, during James' incredible Slow Node, was hit by a car in an effort to save his daughter. The daughter is fine thanks to his efforts but he was struck after scooping her up and out of the way, while he was thrown quite a ways. It was touch and go... He was unconscious and critical for days. When he came to it was unclear if he would regain movement, then it was unclear if he would speak or think clearly. His wife is studying Reiki. She brought in her teacher, who also happens to be a spirit communicator. Anyway my daughter texted me to let me know that she was witnessing an incredible practitioner work on her patient (she was assigned to this patient). She knows about Reiki because I (like a million other people) am initiated in the practice. But this practitioner was describing a parade of visitors who had come to "check" on the patient. They were deceased grandparents, aunts and uncles, friends etc. But one person wasn't there for the patient or his wife. She described him. The date was March 10th the day that my daughter's grandfather died. And the Reiki master described him to a Tee. The patient made a somewhat miraculous and full recovery and he and his wife and 3 year old daughter made a new friend in my daughter. But that's not all.
Last night my daughter mentioned how fascinated the floor of nurses had become with the idea of using "energy" in their work and it came up that a surgeon on premises has been having a Reiki practitioner in the operating room during operations and has been doing it for years. He keeps careful detailed notes and records the outcomes comparing operations with Reiki versus without Reiki. There is a statistically significant difference which is why he now only operates with a Reiki master in the room. I'm not sure if he intends to publish a paper on his findings but I hope that one day it gets out there. And that we come to appreciate the magical as natural, as sacred, as One of a part of the Divine. And that we too learn to only operate when we invite the sacred into the room.
Tim
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Tim,
Much food for thought. Was up all night, feverish and achey. Could be flu but will have to get back to you. TWO docs apps. today when I just want to crawl in bed!...
thanx,
Stacy
p.s same with you, Halina, if you catch this from your medical thread. Really weak and trying to get dressed for my ride.
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Rest up Stace...
Feel better...
HVA
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Thanks, Tim.
And this is an example of T Jupiter Rx cj the ASC?.
No flu, but possibly cellulitis in leg concurrent to wound care, and/or viral inf.
Been hitting the ground running for so long, I don't know what a relaxing day at home is. So preparing for trip to ER, wound care, pharmacy, scooter repair, pest control--then I fall into bed again.
"I will be back" (thanks, Arnold) in a day or so.
Stacy
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Well Tim, All:
Seems my original post and events are right on schedule. ER visit confirmed severe Cellulitis in leg where I was just treated for rare Staph infection. Surreal. One thing after another--literally. Sunday is my only day "off" if I am lucky. Am open to ways to carve out quality time, and set boundaries in midst of pushy medical staff. Whole other story...
Your first quote in latest post supports the point I make that I cannot even plan before another crises hits. Literally. Scarcely before one has been healed or completed, another overlaps. Saturn Oriental and Mars-Saturn have always made me a good planner. But as the saying goes "Man plans, the gods laugh" seems particularly true in my case.
Love - love - love your Reiki story!! Many people would not have known of that as an option, or scoffed at it.
BTW, my favorite all-time inspirational song is Amazing Grace, ;).
With regard to your last paragraph, my stubborn Aquarius comes in and insists one has to 'walk a mile in another's shoes to truly understand what he goes through'. Not really a hard concept to grab. I know it's true for me. How many people do I know that have 7-10 medical apps. per week now, double and triple booked; weekends; holidays---just killing me, no pun intended. Or maybe. And all the secondary headaches a personal assistant and a nurse could absorb for me! But it's all on me.
Still, am trying to make 'better choices', to even make sure I completely understand what that means. And a little other-worldly advise helps me enormously!
I really do appreciate your thoughts on this thread.
Stacy
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Hey Stacy,
Just one thought about insomnia that might help both Yourself and James. Although I don't suffer insomnia myself, more like narcolepsy, one of the best sounds I know for falling asleep are ocean sounds, or rain sounds, there are a lot of meditation tracks out there that provide this if you are not able to live by the sea, (know you have both lived in California at various times in your life).
Hope that helps, and if not, the intention was honourable. ;) Sweet dreams.