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General Astrology Discussion / Re: Anthony Bourdain
« Last post by James Williams on Today at 04:22:25 PM »
Barbara, I've seen so many of these "matchings" over the years now, that I've come to expect them in cases such as these--especially when the Nodes are involved.  And it could be that Mars rules his 10th House in his Western chart, with Taurus intercepted.  But with transiting Mars and transiting Uranus so prominent here at the time of his transition, "impulsive" suicide certainly would fit the symbolism...
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General Astrology Discussion / Re: Anthony Bourdain
« Last post by Barbara Ybarra on Today at 04:10:42 PM »
That is a valid and excellent description of it, James.  I wondered about that Mars with the Moon Nodes.  Like a message to us or something.
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General Astrology Discussion / Re: Anthony Bourdain
« Last post by James Williams on Today at 03:49:32 PM »
Barbara, I tend to agree, I don't think it was the behavior of Argento that drove him to suicide...it was deeper than that.  It was the realization that both career and relationships and money and fame, etc., will not provide the type of lasting happiness that he was desperately missing and searching for throughout life...he saw and felt glimpses of it, such as at that ashram, but never came to the realization that true and lasting happiness is found within, not without.

Again, I am struck by the timing of transiting Mars at the time he took his life.  It was averaging around 15 minutes of movement per day, leading up to the 8th, and on the morning of the 8th it was exactly conjunct--to the minute--to the transiting True South Node.  It was like a detonator set to go off when they met...
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General Astrology Discussion / Re: Anthony Bourdain
« Last post by Barbara Ybarra on Today at 02:32:44 PM »
Thank you to Pamela and James for finding that birth time! 

As said, it's not proof, yet I think that Bourdain would have had enough curiosity and training (like respect for an original recipe) that he would come to an astrologer only with the correct time.  And yet, it still might be a few minutes off.  It is suspicious that both Uranus and the progressed Moon were at 0 Taurus together if it was not on an angle.  On the other hand, that point was square to his natal Uranus which certainly ruled his 7th house if born at that time.  It requires more detective work, since we really don't know if Bourdain was crushed about a disappointed love affair or if he knew about a terminal illness, or if, indeed, he had set himself a marker in time to have become a household name, and it didn't happen (enough).  I'm trying to give credit to the "poor Anthony and his broken heart" story, but I've heard some male nastiness come from his mouth at times that makes me think he was made of tougher nails than that.  But who knows?  Thanks for the better time.

Everybody here has such important astrological comments.  PDW, when you mentioned the Moon being the 12th ruler, you made me notice that the Moon is the yod or midpoint of the Venus/Jupiter-Pluto.  Also, Venus is the yod (or midpoint) of the Moon-Saturn sextile.  All of those outer planets are involved with Venus and the Moon, one way or another, and all triggered by transits lately.  The one that I want to understand would be the solar arc of Jupiter to Neptune.  5th house ruler to 8th house ruler.   
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General Astrology Discussion / Re: Anthony Bourdain
« Last post by James Williams on Today at 01:36:00 PM »
Two quotes by Carl Jung seem to me to be extremely relevant as to why Bourdain took his life...

· I have frequently seen people become neurotic when they content themselves with inadequate or wrong answers to the questions of life. They seek position, marriage, reputation, outward success of money, and remain unhappy and neurotic even when they have attained what they were seeking. Such people are usually confined within too narrow a spiritual horizon. Their life has not sufficient content, sufficient meaning.

· I have treated many hundreds of patients. Among those in the second half of life - that is to say, over 35 - there has not been one whose problem in the last resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life.

I am reminded that the 7th House is also the 4th House from the 4th House...his emotional unhappiness, coupled with an eclipse of his ability to discern and discriminate properly and functionally, left him with what seemed no viable options in order to continue marching on...if he had been urged to follow a "spiritual" path, he would have had a much better chance of sticking around...



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General Astrology Discussion / Re: Anthony Bourdain
« Last post by James Williams on June 17, 2018, 11:57:55 PM »
Hi Dean, yes I cringed when I heard that, but I hear it's not too uncommon among native Indian astrologers, unfortunately.  The art of consultation is not their specialty...it is important for us non-native Indians to remember that oftentimes these "village" astrologers were taught the craft by their father or other relative, and passed down secretly, sometimes for generations and even centuries.  Now this guy Sunil was located in a large populated tourist city, and yet he also was the priest of a local ashram, which is somewhat unusual for a jyotishi.

Here's what James Braha wrote in one of his books, which also helps us native Westerners to better understand the mindset and techniques of the historical jyotishi in India...

"Generally, a Hindu astrology reading given by an Indian...will be rather short and to the point.  The reading may consist of five or six extremely specific predictions, some of which will be dramatically accurate, and some of which fail completely...The astrologer usually describes some events and circumstances of your previous years.  But there is very little about who you are...It amounts to the Indians' approach to astrology, as well as their experiences of life.  For an Indian, the point of astrology is to find out what is fated, what has been 'determined' by one's past karma...You also have to remember that Indians absolutely expect the astrologer to be accurate in making specific predictions.  So the astrologer's consciousness is entirely focused on that task...Focusing completely on predictions makes it very hard for a Hindu astrologer to talk about a horoscope for any length of time...Generally, though, if you talk to five or ten Indians who have visited local astrologers, they'll tell story after story about important astrological predictions that came about exactly as the astrologer promised...If you want a more thorough Jyotish reading, you're generally better off getting it from a Westerner.  You'll likely receive more information, and...the material will be more fleshed out.  You will almost certainly, however, not be told that on the second Thursday in October, your mother is going to break her leg" (from pages 176-179 in The Art and Practice of Ancient Hindu Astrology: Nine Intimate Sessions Between Teacher and Student).

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General Astrology Discussion / Re: Anthony Bourdain
« Last post by Dean Bensics on June 17, 2018, 06:31:04 PM »
Hello Forum.

Look at Asia Argento's chart attached.

She has Mars at 20-Gemini which is absorbing an exact Tr. Pluto hit by quincunx (150 degrees)...a difficult, violent adjustment.

Mars rules her relationship DSC.

Natal Pluto is on her ASC.

Natal Pluto rules her 2nd which is the 8th of the 7th...death of a partner.

Regards,
Dean B.
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General Astrology Discussion / Re: Anthony Bourdain
« Last post by Dean Bensics on June 17, 2018, 05:52:39 PM »
Hi James...the guru told Bourdain that he won't have a good female partner because he's not good in bed.

My Goodness! But then looking at the chart as you say...Jupiter5-Pluto square Saturn in Scorpio.

Regards,
Dean B.
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General Astrology Discussion / Re: Anthony Bourdain
« Last post by James Williams on June 17, 2018, 04:10:47 PM »
In watching that video with his Jyotish session with Sunil, I was especially struck by his last comment to them, "This seems to be a place of great happiness."  It was like he was wistfully wanting that so much for himself...

Emotional happiness is seen in one's Jyotisha birth chart via 4th House significators.  He has no planets in his 4th, but the ruler, Venus, is in his 12th, retrograde, and the 12th is known as the house of expenditure and loss...so loss of happiness.  This is corroborated by its close conjunction with Sun, hence combust.

The 12th House in one's Jyotish chart is also known as the house of bed pleasures, or the pleasure (or lack thereof) that one receives from sex.  Notice also that in his Western chart, that his 5th and 8th House significators are under significant developmental tension...

If questioned, I wouldn't be surprised if he would have said something like, "I don't receive all the sexual pleasure I would like because I travel and am away from home so damn much."
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