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General Astrology Discussion / Re: Face reading and astrology
« Last post by Robynne on April 20, 2018, 05:19:43 PM »
I was always trained to associate research with the 8th house--

Confirmed re: Pluto (10) in the 8th being research Don.

With  Pluto in Virgo in the 8th;

2015: I worked for Key Research

2017: I worked for National Research Bureau

Both employers are market research companies, also a whole lot of genealogy research and astrology research were added into the mix as well.

* Not promoting brands or companies here though, just using that to illustrate a point, along with the fact that work based confidentiality clauses are the norm for these work contracts.

Both my late husband and son had/have 8th house Pluto's as well.

General Astrology Discussion / Re: Face reading and astrology
« Last post by Don Borkowski on April 20, 2018, 03:06:31 PM »
You do have my permission to use my late wife as an example in your lecturing/writing. 

I did know that Gates had a leg injury, but nothing more than that.

Don B.
General Astrology Discussion / Re: Face reading and astrology
« Last post by Barbara Ybarra on April 20, 2018, 10:44:52 AM »
Yes, you are right about the 8th house being associated with research, Don.  12th house "behind the scenes" action can be lots of things of course.  The early time at 11am would put his Moon back in Scorpio closer to the Mars.  Scorpio, like the 8th house expression, can be drawn to research.  These are all just thoughts about the possibilities.  I didn't try to rectify.  I did look at the solar arcs and transits for the day in 2009 when he was arrested, although I am sure it wasn't that big a deal to him, though it was highly ironic and a joke on them that he had spent his life pondering social effects in such a peaceful manner and then was a living example of the strong social bias....and only returned the mistake with a kind gesture of connectedness.  The July 2009 incident was accompanied by SA Uranus to 7 Virgo, and tr Pluto to 1 Sagittarius.  The 11pm chart comes close to those measurements being pertinent...but...not enough to go on. 

I don't know how he got the name Skippy, but it might be in his memoir which I didn't read.  When he was 14 he injured his leg playing football and one leg ended up shorter by 2 inches than the other which could make someone look like they were skipping when they walked.  Age 14 would be a good date to look at for rectification.  Also, just the identity being strongly associated with a limp or skip might ask to allow the ASC to reflect that.  My nickname as a kid was Bobo because I would "clown" with my whole body.  I have Jupiter square my ASC.   
General Astrology Discussion / Re: Face reading and astrology
« Last post by Don Borkowski on April 20, 2018, 09:39:48 AM »
I was always trained to associate research with the 8th house--which adds some more possibilities for Gates' TOB.  Would you know how he got the nickname "Skippy?"  A rectification of his TOB could prove to be most educational.

General Astrology Discussion / Re: Face reading and astrology
« Last post by Barbara Ybarra on April 20, 2018, 08:22:07 AM »
Ok, thank you Don.  I might like to use your late wife's horoscope while speaking of the attached earlobe feature here, but I would need your permission for that, so let me know if I have permission.

Incidentally, I started this thread without recalling the James W. thread from 2013.  Oh well.  My purpose in posting here is not to share everything that interested me from the book by Bridges (which was all of it), because anyone can get that information themselves if they are interested.  My purpose here is to share the correlations I see with astrology since this is indeed an astrology forum.

First off, it should be stated that all of our earlobes are attached at some point to our face.  And some people with largish earlobes have the entire lobe area attached directly to the face without an extra bit of it unattached.  In addition, we are capable of stretching the lobe as seen by some young people who insert larger and larger buttons into it.  Without discussing this ad nauseam, we can say that it is possible to recognize the general category on a face without much deliberation, and those are the people I'm referring to here. 

Henry Louis Gates Jr. is an accomplished person in the U.S. who is recognized particularly for his work on African American literature, their history, and the study of "roots" in general, along with our DNA profiles.  He currently is the host of the tv show "Finding your Roots".  Im not sharing a photo of him here, but in photos it can be seen that his ear is quite attached.  It is also possible to see the lines next to his ear which Don B referred to as the BS detector.  That feature also suggests an intense and perceptive listener for other nuances of speech.

Unfortunately I do not have the birth time of Henry L Gates, so I am taking the liberty to display it as if his stellium is in the 4th house, just for the sake of the argument, just to see it that way temporarily.  If anyone thinks they know his birth time or have seen it rectified, please respond.  It is perhaps equally as likely that Henry was born before noon, with the stellium in the 10th house, and the Moon North Node in the 4th house.  It would make sense then that the Moon and Mars would be in the 12th house for all the research he has done, spending so many hours locked away studying, though he is also an accomplished speaker.  However, I do think that there is something poetic and communal about his message in life.

Henry wrote a memoir about his life growing up in a small town as an African American.  He is not an angry man, and the Virgo sensitivity to detail and nuance is what he is all about.  The Moon Nodal axis with all the planets suggests that even without the correct placement in the horoscope wheel, his need to see life as connection with others is paramount.  In July of 2009 Henry was arrested outside his home under suspicion of breaking and entering the property, despite his protests.  After he was released he made the effort to trace the ancestral lineage of the arresting officer and discovered that they shared a family line from an Irish king.         
Astrology of the Famous and Well Known / New Cuban Leader: Miguel Diaz-Canal
« Last post by Halina on April 20, 2018, 05:29:22 AM »
      He was born April 20, 1960, Havana, Cuba.    He was sworn in April 19, 2018, Havana....anyone have the swearing in time, with reference?   Much appreciated.
Thursday's Vocational Exercises / Re: Vocational Help...
« Last post by James Williams on April 20, 2018, 01:09:15 AM »
Thank you Robynne...yes, he is close to his father...

Alright all, time and destiny will it does with all of us...

Thank you all again...

General Astrology Discussion / Re: TWELVE - The History From The Stars
« Last post by Antonio on April 20, 2018, 12:40:36 AM »
Not really a fan of reptilians, and am more of a humanitarian than a conspiracy theorist, so will leave that to the True Scorpios.  :o

With all these mixtures the truth is hard to find. Whether we search for true scorpions, true humanitarians*, or true fish, we can´t just trust the labels.

* "Hans Asperger has for decades been regarded as a hero in the field of autism treatment and research, said to have shielded his young patients from the menace of Hitler’s occupation."

Told ya!
Thursday's Vocational Exercises / Re: Vocational Help...
« Last post by Robynne on April 19, 2018, 11:44:46 PM »
Thanks pdw, and Jim for filling in more of the background,

I'm looking at the chart, and can see certain potentials, I can see how Stacy came to the conclusion about nursing (possibly caretaking too) but what would more immediately concern me is that he has an unaspected Sun. Is there a father in the picture?

Also, he has transiting Pluto having crossed his Ascendant with Mars soon to catch up.

The most immediate thing would be that someone is actually caring enough to take an interest in helping him to think about his future, in a real way. It could potentially be an empowering time, but with a 16 year old it could just as easily go the other way and be explosive.

Taken from the Sixth house North Node in Cancer cj Jupiter, with ruler Moon in the 9th, I wouldn't rule out tourism and travel though.

General Astrology Discussion / Re: Face Reading and Astrology
« Last post by Antonio on April 19, 2018, 10:47:11 PM »
It appears to me that it is easier to find those with long (and short and shallow) philtrums rather than those with wide philtrums.

Clinical Significance

• A flat Philtrum is often associated with Congenital, Cognitive and growth disorders. Most are genetic or inborn disorders, which may involve slow growth, metabolic defects like obesity, slow cognitive abilities etc.
• In Fetal Alcohol Syndrome or Prader–Willi syndrome a flattened or smooth philtrum may be found. Smooth Philtrum is most commonly associated with fetal alcohol syndrome. Since in many studies it is found to be a frequent sign of appearance of the condition
• A broader than average philtrum is among a group of physical anomalies related with autism.

Supernatural Significance

"As an unborn infant is about to be sent to its mother, the "Angels of Oblivion" lightly tap its upper lip, whereupon the unborn infant forgets everything it knows." I remember that!!!  ;D

Theorist, Pantheist, Syncretist, Epistemologist, Glocalist, Anthropologist, Populist, Cosmologist, Ethicist, Futurist, Occultist, Alarmist, Ontologist, Artist,… Joshua Hehe
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