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General Astrology Discussion / Re: Declination(s) Interpretations
« Last post by Stacy on Today at 05:57:00 PM »
Meant to thank you for the link, as well (to Kannon's site). Synastry, especially, is made clearer with declinations in mind. And wowee - take a look at DT's declinations!!  Is this what's really behind his truly "unique" thinking? Not the word I would use, but trying to be tactful. Clearly, it has meaning and given that strong example and Dean Bensic's successful Oscar predictions (with the help of declinations), we should all see how under-utilized they are.
General Astrology Discussion / Re: Declination(s) Interpretations
« Last post by Stacy on Today at 05:48:02 PM »
Sounds like a dream, painting a beautiful sky picture from another place and time, Barb (like when your son was born).  Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some phenomenal event that made celestial bodies disappear --lol!

About 20 years ago I went to my mom and her bf's rural house for the weekend, out in Riverside county, which is now crazy big-populated-gangs, etc. I marveled over the stars visible from their street before street lights were installed in their new neighborhood.  I imagine it's the same when people go out to the desert especially, here in So. Calif.  Haven't been camping in ages. But we still have local Mt. Palomar Observatory here in San Diego county. Back in Colorado, of course, it was different. Didn't have to go far at all to be out in the boonies, and being so high in elevation it was like one of those John Denver songs, could almost touch the sky, or something. Marrying astronomy with astrology wouldn't be a bad idea for all of us at some time, though it never obsessed me as astrology has.

Wouldn't that be something, to see a picture of the sky when we were born....?

GBH --Grievous Bodily Harm ?

General Astrology Discussion / Re: Declination(s) Interpretations
« Last post by Barbara Ybarra on Today at 03:51:07 PM »
Hi Stacy. 
Regarding the "being visible" back in the day, well, it still is visible, but I just meant that the early astrologers (say 5 BC, and up until the era of polished lenses), went outside to look at the planets to verify their locations,(with aid of some calculations and star maps), and they couldn't help but see how much north-south distance one planet was from another if in the same longitude. In fact, they measured the distance. Of course, we cannot see everything in the sky at once.  That was really true when my son was born on Oct 8, 1964, and the Moon was all by itself in the night sky, while all other planets and the Sun were below the horizon.  But occultation is exciting to see, and to be tracked over time.  Lots of people who use astrology never think about declination or what it is, and cannot picture it when described, but they would understand it easily if they went outside and looked.   
Hi Dean,

I lived parallel life situation as your Mother during same time span. Would you be willing to share her chart with me? Thanks.
         Home grown Khalid Masood, an Isis sympathizer, 52 year old.   
Born December 25, 1964 in Kent, England.    Some previous convictions:
1.  First convicted in Nov 1983 for criminal damage.
2.  Last convicted for knife possession, Dec 2003.
     Isis propaganda probably got to him.
3.   Previous convictions for assault.... and GBH...what the heck is that???
Below a 360* triwheel for his death.
General Astrology Discussion / Re: Declination(s) Interpretations
« Last post by Stacy on Today at 10:44:05 AM »
A brief response now, Halina, until later this evening. re: book by Gibson---I used to own it. I have owned nearly every astrology book anyone here has ever read/owned when I had 2 astrological libraries (before having to liquidate them during my many relocations). So I appreciate re-creating the pertinent parts for me. Gives me much to study tonight.--thnx, Stacy

General Astrology Discussion / Re: Declination(s) Interpretations
« Last post by Halina on Today at 08:46:43 AM »
Hi Stacy,  just noticed your last question about's what the author says about that:
    "Identify all planetary eclipses, which occur when 2 planets are are parallel and in conjunction to each other.  Planetary eclipses are not assigned separative positive or negative values and are interpreted on an individual basis.
    A Binary Eclipse occurs when 3 planets are parallel and in conjunction to each other at the same time.
    A Plenary Eclipse occurs when 4 or more planets are parallel and in conjunction to each other at the same time.
    Add the number of these you have to your grand total.   Sun-Merc are commonly eclipsed.   Of the egs, Henry had a Sun-Merc eclipse; Cynthis had a Sun-Merc eclipse; Betty had a Sun-Merc eclipse.
General Astrology Discussion / Re: Declination(s) Interpretations
« Last post by Halina on Today at 08:30:36 AM »
Thanks for the references Barb.....  Stacy for depression an excellent book is "Signs of Mental Illness", by Mitchell Gibson, M.D.....he uses declinations, and multiple planet aspects in diagnosing such illnesses as depression, panic, obsessive compulsion, post traumatic stress, anxiety disorder, phobias, schizophrenis, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
     Here are some things he says to look for in Markers For Major Depression(there are 43 markers, but I will just list ones for parallels, declinations):
1. Parallels such as Saturn/Pluto, Sun/Mercury, Pluto/Mars, Venus/Moon, Uranus/Moon, Pluto/Moon.
2. Contraparallels such as: Jupiter/Neptune, Jupiter/Mercury, Saturn/Pluto, Jupiter/Uranus, Saturn/Mercury, Pluto/Mercury/
3. Identify the Triangle elevations( 3 planets forming a parallel or contraparallel relationship to all other planets within the triangle) :
    such as Saturn-Pluto-Mars and Mars-Moon-Uranus.
4. Identify the Hidek elevations ( planet found between 21 degrees 23 deg 30' on either side of the celestial equator.
    So look for any of these 3 planets at such elevations: Pluto, Uranus, Saturn.
5. Identify the Exdek elevations (A planet above 23*30' on either side of the celestial equator.  Look for any of Mars, Moon, Venus in this position.
6. Identify Proximity elevations ( Two planets are found within 30 minutes of declination to each other within a particular elevation.)    Examples of this are:
    Pluto/Mars parallel,  Pluto/Mercury contraparallel,  Saturn/Pluto parallel.
7. Identify Grand Elevatiions (Degrees of elevation are calculated by adding the TOTAL NUMBER OF ELEVATIONS for each planet.   A planet with ONE ELEVATION
    is said to have a First-Degree elevation.    A planet with TWO ELEVATIONS is said to have a Second-Degree elevation.
8. Author then gives formulas for final calculations....but even without these formulas,  you can check your degree of Major Depression....the more of the above you have, the more your inclination to major depression.   The GPI index is found by adding all the longitudinal and declinational elevations in your chart (solar fire does declinations, parallesl, contraparallels)
7.  Here are the GPI scores of his example people for Major Depression:
      Matilda, her GPI was 24(she had 24 markers for this disease);  Denise had a GPI of 41;  David had a GPI of 28;  Cynthia had a GPI of 24;  Betty's GPI 29.
     Saturn/Pluto parallel;    Pluto/Mars parallel;   Jupiter/Neptune contraparallel;   Exdek Mars;   Saturn/Neptune square;   Saturn/Uranus square.
General Astrology Discussion / Re: Declination(s) Interpretations
« Last post by Stacy on Today at 08:00:02 AM »
p.s. Didn't want to forget your comments about the significance of occultation, and also declinations being visible 'back in the day'. Did I get that right? Am not sure I follow. Again, gotta run, but if you could clarify I would appreciate.--tnx, Stacy
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