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Author Topic: Voc Exs, August 20-21, 2014  (Read 549 times)
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« on: August 20, 2014, 06:33:13 AM »

Voc Exs  August 20-21, 2014


Prove in minimalist presentation these two profiles:

A. Male:  Camille Saint-Saens, Composer: October 9, 1835 at 7:00 AM LMT in Paris.  Asc: 23Lib22.

B. Male:  Carl Sandburg, Poet:  January 6, 1878 at 00:05 AM LMT in Galesburg IL.  Asc: 13Lib24.


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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2014, 07:19:59 PM »

Good Morning Noel.

A) Camille Saint-Saens

1) MC=Nep5-MoMC.Ven12-Jup(E,9)3-Plu…artistry and musical inspiration; communication through composition; the power of aesthetics to transform.

2) MC=Sat4(=Su/Mo)-Ura*4…a bridge between the old and the new, the historical and the modern.

CONCLUSION: A musical artist and composer with the power to transform with his gift.

B) Carl Sandburg

1) MC=Su11-Jup(E)3-Mar*DSC-Sat4…a writer on national, historic themes and personages. A crusader for social causes.

2) Mo(Aqu)MC.Ura(11)5-Ven(5)<>Nep…the need for social significance being played out in an artistic, creative environment.

CONCLUSION: A writer/poet with a creative aesthetic who is devoted to social issues and national historic memory.

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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2014, 11:03:37 AM »

Dear Noel

Camille Saint-Saens

"Saint-Saens introduced the symphonic poem to France"

a) Ne(-Ju3E)(=Me/Sa)(=MC=Sa4).Ur4*(4)
b) MoMC=Su/Mo(-Me-Ma6,7)(7).(SuMC)-Ve*
Professional composer-artist with unique creativity and strong public projection. Harmoniously innovative without loss of tradition; national pride.


Carl Sandburg

"Sandburg was indubitably an American in every pulse beat"

MoMC(=Ju/Sa)(4).Ur5.Su-Ju3E(-Ma*,=MC).Sa4.Ne!(=Mo/MC)<>Ve=MC/ASC
Writing with emotional conviction from the higher mind; the imagination abounds and seeks harmony in language; love of social issues and pride in homeland - the populist poet.
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2014, 01:07:44 PM »

Hello Noel - here is my contribution:

A. Saint-Saens
MC = Nep5 sq Merc9, Mars and SatIV sq MC; Sat trine Ura, dips Nep: Inspired communication, dynamic presentation, built upon tradition - but paving new ways.
MC · Mo · VenAsc * conj Sun Libra. MC= Mo/Ven: Artist - balance of form and content, ideal perfection.

Conclusion: An artist - expressing himself in new ways, giving form to the eternal.


B. V. Sandburg
MC = Sun, Jup3IV sesqsq Uran5 opp VenAs+8, < > Nep, Ven = Asc/MC: Artistic expression of an ideal, beautified homeland.
Uran q MoMC:A longing for the past, sentimental, emotional.

Conclusion: Artistic expression of the yearned country.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2014, 08:29:58 AM »

Good Morning Noel:
Here’s my take:

A. Male:  Camille Saint-Saens
 October 9, 1835 at 7:00 AM LMT in Paris.  Asc: 23Lib22.

Cancer Mh Moon(-JupiterE r.3) and Sun(-Mh) cor. 10 – Venus*(1/8/12)
Mh=Venus*/Neptune(5)


Mh keys Moon and Sun (both disp. Venus*) as Mh co-rulers suggesting strong needs for aesthetic expression (Venus -JupiterE r.3) through musical performance  (Moon-Venus*-Neptune=musical signature) as a conductor (Sun=Venus*/ang. Saturn w/ang. Neptune, both –Mh), and composer/arranger (JupiterE – Mercury r.9/11 - Venus*), all with high individuality (Uranus*) and international acclaim.

Summary
This man was likely, a musical pioneer (1st House strength) introducing a “modern” musical sound with a distinct French flair ((AP=Ang Saturn/Uranus co.r. 4th - a peregrine island - holding Neptune in Aquarius and Uranus*).   

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B. Male:  Carl Sandburg
January 6, 1878 at 00:05 AM LMT in Galesburg IL.  Asc: 13Lib24.

Aquarius Mh Moon – Uranus(5) – ang. Sun(11;-ang. JupiterE r.3; -Mh) – Saturn(4) – Neptune(6;<>Venus(8/1; AP-Uranus=Venus/Neptune)

Mh keys Moon in Aquarius suggesting a people person with w/high individuality and social consciousness needing artistic (Neptune r.6<>Venus r.1/8 ) communication (ang. Sun and ang. JupiterE r.3 on the Mh axis) as a prolific writer, poet, traveler and entertainer involving patriotic and social themes (Saturn r.4 –Mars* r .7)

Summary
The need is express the uniquely American experiences of the people through poetry, history, etc., as their literary advocate as well as being an activist uncovering social injustices to balance the picture.  He was – and remains – a powerful voice for the people.

Many regards ………………… Reina?
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2014, 09:49:47 AM »




WRAP-UPS



Voc Exs  August 21-22, 2014

Proof of vocational need

A. Camille Saint-Saens  --Oct 9, 1835 at 7:00 AM in Paris, France


1. MH-Moon.Venus*Sun; The aesthetic expression need appears; it is backed up by Neptune-MH

2. JupiterE-Moon.Venus* etc.

3. Special Note for originality of expression: Uranus*

STOP


B.   Carl Sandburg --Jan 6 1878 at 00:05 AM in Galesburg IL.

1.  Dominant for first notice:  Jupiter-Sun --MH; Jupiter ruling the 3rd… writing.

2. Venus<>Neptune:  aesthetics.

STOP

Enough to declare a high aesthetic communication need  … with pervasive humanistic orientation (Moon in Aquarius).


---What eloquent presentations from you all!  Impressive indeed.

The point of learning here is that you can now go back to these “clients” and immediately feel the confidence in the routings, appreciate the scenario of need and development.  Your brain is constantly storing these routings; they are "on call," as it were.

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Notice, please:


Dear Friends:


I am on my way to Beijing and then Tokyo: 42 Hours of Seminar presentations and SEVENTY-ONE horoscope consultations.

I will be unable to maintain our Vocational Exercises during this trip.

We will resume our important work together on October 1-2.

Wish me luck!

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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2014, 01:06:41 PM »

Dear Noel

These two horoscopes worked exquisitely well side by side.

All our good energies go with you!!

Until October,
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2014, 02:36:23 AM »

Dear Noel,

Again - thank you for a revealing exercise.

How can we distinguish between various forms of creative expressions e.g.
music, painting, poetry, writing and others in the charts?
Between a composer, musician, painter or writer?    ---Good question, but not all that necessary; "aesthetics" or "the arts" is really enough.  The client will provide a clarified answer.  But a rule of thumb emerges from experience: The Mercury and 3rd House pivot points seem to lead into writing;  the Neptune-Venus pivot points bring in painting and music more often.  That's about all I can help with.

Looking forward to renewed vocational jousts with your safe return from your western journeys to the East.

Sune

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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2014, 12:40:15 PM »

Thank-you again Maestro Tyl. Enjoy Asia.

Regards,

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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2014, 02:26:00 PM »

Noel:  What do you mean by "pivot"?

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