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The Magic 7 Aspect and Solar Arcs
« on: October 11, 2009, 04:52:41 PM »
Hi everyone,

I've recently discovered an aspect that seem to work quite well in solar arcs. I call it the Magic 7 Aspect but it's technical term is The Magi Zodiac7 aspect. The Magi Society, the inventors of this technique, are an astrological society dedicated to research in the field of astrology. I am sure many of you have heard of them. Much of their work is fascinating to me, especially the way they divide the zodiac into 7 equals parts forming aspects every 51 degrees 26 minutes apart from each other.

http://www.magisociety.com/zodiac7.htm

Recently, I tried this technique to see if it would work in solar arcs and so far I am impressed with the results. I have noticed events that I couldn't pick up using 4th harmonic aspects that are being shown with the Magic 7 aspect. The aspects seem powerful too. Let me first give you a lesson on how to apply them.

For instance, lets say your Sun is at 5 degrees Aries. To set up your Magic 7 aspects, you would calculate an aspect occuring every 51 degrees 26 minutes(360 degrees divided by 7). So after 5 degrees Aries comes 56Ta26, then 17Cn52, then 09Vi18, then 00Sc44, then 22Sg10 and 13Aq36. See how I did that? Now, calculate the Magic 7 aspects for each of your planets.

Now you have all of the aspects and you can go through your solar arcs at certain ages to see when other planets came to contact with your planet based on forming a Magic 7 aspect. For instance, if you use the above Aries Sun at 5 degrees, say you have a Moon located at 3 degrees Cancer. At age 15(approximately) the Moon makes a Magic 7 aspect to your Sun. That's how it works. But the aspect must be exactly how it appears. What I mean is that you can't, for instance, have a planet arc to say 15 degrees Taurus and cross aspect with a Magic 7 aspect at 15 degrees Scorpio. The aspect must be 15 degrees Scorpio. Since we deal with 4th harmonic aspects so much in solar arcs, there is a tendency to want to do that but you will be breaking the rules and it will not work.

So please, eveyone, give it a shot. Try progressing your solar arcs to your Magic 7 aspects and see what you get. I wouldn't be surprised if you find reasons for that relationship you had 10 years ago that have not shown up in your previous solar arcs or for that promotion you got or that major move you made. Let me know what you come up with.

Bryan
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Re: The Magic 7 Aspect and Solar Arcs
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2009, 02:55:04 PM »
Hi Bryan

The 'Magic 7' aspect  is the septile series of aspects that have been used in harmonic astrology for a long time, Magi astrology certainly didn't invent it.

In my first article on the Vertex in the Analytical Techniques section on this site http://www.noeltyl.com/techniques/050531.html  I briefly covered my observations on how this aspect series worked.

From personal experience I agree that Solar Arcs can strongly activate septile aspects in the natal chart.

I have written a great deal about the septile series of aspects on various forums.   Here is an extract from my 'Ask Alice' column for Southern Star, our local newletter:

"The Septile series of aspects are based on the 7th harmonic (360/7) and are made up of the septile 51'25'43', the biseptile 102'51'25" and the triseptile 154'7'08"
 
This aspect series describe people who are interested in 'other realities' in various ways , according to the planets making up the septile or septile pattern.  It usually describes a very high level of expertise in their area of interest.  These people are the seekers after wisdom.
 
You find septile series people in science, religion, astrology, research, psychic areas - in fact any area that could be considered deeper or more recondite to the norm for a culture.  For instance I know a veterinarian who can easily communicate with most animals, reptiles and birds who has a planet conjunct his 6th house Vertex which is also involved in a big septile-biseptile-triseptile pattern in his natal chart.   
 
Septile people are often highly inventive, especially if an outer planet is involved in the pattern. I have found a number of them involved in artificial intelligence areas.
 
Unlike quintile series people, septile series people tend to be quiet, sometimes shy and very modest.  Usually only people involved in the same area realise the extent of their considerable abilities and skills.  If they have quintiles running off one of the planets involved in the septile pattern they can be highly creative (or destructive) with their knowledge or skill.
 
As the septile series give the ability to understand other realities it fits well with the Vertex axis, which is a doorway to other realities, so you often find the two combined in some way in the charts of exceptional people.  For example, Albert Einstein had his Vertex in Scorpio, with the ruler, Pluto, conjunct the antiVertex and in septile aspect to Mercury -Saturn.  He also had a septile pattern involving Asc-Uranus-Moon.  The Moon was involved in a quintile pattern made up of Moon-Jupiter-Neptune and Uranus was biquintle Mars, so he was able to become an expert in his chosen field (septile) and develop further creative/destructive use in that area (quintiles).
 
One of the signatures of psychic ability is a septile pattern running off the Vertex axis, though this is usually a private skill as the septile people don't enjoy publicity.   
 
It is not unusual to have a planet in a septile series aspect to the Ascendant.  In fact, it is always there in the few charts I have that I know have an absolutely accurate time of birth, so I am considering that perhaps it is a signature of the birth process. This becomes very powerful if there is an actual septile pattern involved with the Ascendant.
 
Septile transits are always interesting if you are looking into areas that are deeper or require specialised knowledge."

Alice The Septile series of aspects are based on the 7th harmonic (360/7) and are made up of the septile 51'25'43', the biseptile 102'51'25" and the triseptile 154'7'08"
 
This aspect series is very important as they show people who are interested in 'other realities' in various ways - according to the planets making up the septile or septile pattern.  It usually describes a very high level of expertise in their area of interest.  These are the seekers after wisdom.
 
So you find septile series people in science, religion, astrology, research, psychic areas - in fact any area that could be considered deeper or more recondite to the norm for a culture.  For instance I know a veterinarian who can easily communicate with most animals, reptiles and birds who has a planet conjunct his 6th house Vertex which is also involved in a big septile-biseptile-triseptile pattern in his natal chart.   
 
Septile people are often highly inventive, especially if an outer planet is involved in the pattern. I have found a number of them involved in artificial intelligence areas.
 
Unlike quintile series people, septile series people tend to be quiet, sometimes shy and very modest.  Usually only people involved in the same area realise the extent of their considerable abilities and skills.  If they have quintiles running off one of the planets involved in the septile pattern they can be highly creative (or destructive) with their knowledge or skill.
 
As the septiles give the ability to understand other realities it fits well with the Vertex axis, which is a doorway to other realities, so you often find the two combined in some way in the charts of exceptional people.  For example, Albert Einstein had his Vertex in Scorpio, with the ruler, Pluto, conjunct the antiVertex and in septile aspect to Mercury  Saturn.  He also had a septile pattern involving Asc-Uranus-Moon.  The Moon was involved in a quintile pattern made up of Moon-Jupiter-Neptune and Uranus was biquintle Mars, so he was able to become an expert in his chosen field (septile) and develop further creative/destructive use in that area (quintiles).
 
One of the signatures of psychic ability is a septile pattern running off the Vertex axis, though this is usually a private skill as the septile people don't enjoy publicity.   
 
It is not unusual to have a planet in a septile series aspect to the Ascendant.  In fact, it is always there in the few charts I have that I know have an absolutely accurate time of birth, so I am considering that perhaps it is a signature of the birth process. This becomes very powerful if there is an actual septile pattern involved with the Ascendant.
 
Septile transits are always interesting if you are looking into areas that are deeper or require specialised knowledge. 

Alice McDermott 

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Re: The Magic 7 Aspect and Solar Arcs
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2009, 03:56:39 PM »
Hi Again Bryan

I was reading through the link you gave for the Magi Society site and noticed that they quite a lot to say about Hitler. Their astrology isn't all that accurate e.g. Hitler has a Moon-Jupiter conjunction in Capricorn, not Cancer and they don't seem to understand the dynamics of Tropical Astrology.

However, re septiles; I thought you might be interested that Hitler has a big septile pattern involving Uranus-IC-Venus Mars, making a midpoint structure of IC = Venus-Mars/Uranus, indicating his ability to make radical changes to his homeland.  It is a particularly powerful pattern because it involves an angle and the rulers of three angles.  Mars-Uranus gives a rather explosive type of energy.  Hitler was the catalyst for great advances in the development of technology.

His other septile pattern of Sun-Saturn-antiVertex is also powerful as it involves the ruler of his MC.

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Re: The Magic 7 Aspect and Solar Arcs
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2009, 06:07:45 PM »
Hi Alice,

I read your article regarding the vertex and anti-vertex awhile back and I enjoyed it every much. Also, thanks for the great information on the septile. Really, really good stuff.

I do disagree with you on the Magi Society though. I find their description of Hitler amazing eventhough they made a mistake with one of his signs.

Anyway, thanks for the input.

Bryan

Btw, Alice how would a Venus septile Neptune express itself?
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2009, 04:48:19 AM »
Hi Bryan and Alice,

The Septile and Vertex never bore me.  With Uranus and Mars in great emphasis, I feel a great deal of that 'electrical' axis Alice refers to.  I learn that Uranus-Vertex disposes one, that they must use their inner perception to respond to higher vibrations.  Lynn Koiner also provides a little more detail.

"Characteristics, attributes, qualifications, skills to be activated in this lifetime through demand/urging of others.  In Esoteric Astrology, the theory is the vertex indicates RAY energy to be cultivated in this lifetime.  Shift in personality, astral or mental body, drawn to others to express this aptitude."

Alice, I relate to the 'shyness' inherent, for this subject is not the usual fare.  My Chiron opposition perhaps suggests one did not use this valuable gift in a previous lifetime, for various reasons.  I applaud your bringing out more on this topic.  And you provide much more on this forum than most.  Keeps me listening.

any additional thoughts on this Ray energy of which Lynn speaks?

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Re: The Magic 7 Aspect and Solar Arcs
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009, 02:35:07 PM »
Sorry about the article appearing twice, I don't know how that happened as I thought I had only clicked the 'Paste' icon once.

Byran, I would need to look at the whole chart to determine how Venus septile Neptune would manifest.  I feel as though it would be a lovely, romantic, gentle energy with perhaps an interest in romance, art and music from other times, but that would depend a lot on the signs, houses and other aspects involved.

Lura I was fascinated with the extract from Lyn Koiner's work you posted.  I had not considered the Vertex axis in connection to the 7 Rays of Esoteric astrology.  I have asked a very good Esoteric Astrologer friend of mine to consider this concept.  If he comes to any conclusions I will let you know via this thread.

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2009, 01:10:42 PM »
Alice,

Thank you for your interest.

The Vertex has been a real eye opener for me in this lifetime and vocation.  Without getting too in depth, I share what has helped me understand personally, a Vertex in opposition to a Juno-Pholus channeling.
I turn to Plato and the poets that sit on the point of intersection of human/divine.

Plato:

"The eyes sometimes fill with fire, the bowed head may rise, and new strength may be experienced.  Fundamental fiery energy can make objects not only luminous but transparent, even resemble a strong electrical explosion.  It is during extraordinary intensification this energy is kindled and the destiny seems to disappear.  Fire flows through your veins."

"Nerve centers are channels when the knocking of psychic energy activates.  An exaltation is a blessed intensifier, cosmic explosions can be creative impulses.  The mother will direct our sorrow into a channel of joy."

"The brain and nervous system will provide unusual discoveries that will create possibilities for adjustment to the new rhythm.  The speed of life will seem frightening until people develop a speed of thought sufficient to outstrip it.  Magnetics draw, but one must be ready to accept rescue."

"The effectiveness of energy is increased by an intensified feeling of love.  The fire of exaltation is the best connecting bridge.  People do not understand that each of their light-minded deeds is observed by invisible entitities."

"In the Subtle World, powerful beings can transmit a part of their Ray to someone on Earth who then receives illumination.  Divisibility of spirit can bring transmissions to several people simultaneously.  Directed human thought has a special energy not comparable to radio waves; there are no obstacles."

"One can truly build his destiny.  The achievement in these peak moments strengthens the mind and creates new horizons of thought.  We delude ourselves in limiting to the sense of touch.  We are given other senses that we should utilize for total perception."

"The magic of nature in times of chaos puts on her best garments, as if to console.  There are complete incarnations, but also partial ones.  A strong spirit can give part of his energy.  This can be called a sending of the ray or a sending of energy.  It provides an intensification of power that broadens the consciousness.  It does not depress, but deepens straight-knowledge."

"In some people, a natural keenness can be sensed.  They themselves might have accumulated it in their former lives, but it also could have been sent to them as Grace.  Mothers prayed that double strength be granted to the incarnating soul."

"Spiritual concordance is a valuable achievement and builds individuality.  There are few who are able to discern the superearthly radiance behind the earthly face.   Not so much acceleration of technical discoveries that leads to concentration of the mind, but the desire to learn something new."

"The artist and the healer derive their power from the same Source.  The image must be born in the consciousness of the onlooker.  One cannot rise in spirit without sharpening the consciousness.  The Universe exists by motion, which is regulated by rhythm, but the beat of the heart is a symbol of the movement."

"Each man has within himself a potential force that can bring him into direct contact with the Highest World.  This force builds the esssence of his consciousness and enables Us to transmit information into its core."

This point is a place of mystery, wonder and paradox and revelation seems to unfold in response to intense emotion and fragile moments, that seem to sear in one's mind and soul.  Perhaps, why many going through this have difficulty with whether it is a blessing or a curse.

Alice, you have my chart and please help others, if anything can be discerned.

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Re: The Magic 7 Aspect and Solar Arcs
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2009, 05:29:47 PM »
I must say we are missing out by not using the septile in our solar arc aspects. How could this aspect have been missed and for so long? Perhaps because modern astrology is used to calling it a 'minor' aspect, that we have ignored it. I just found another solar arc using the septile that was completely valid in my life. It was SA Pluto septile Sun/Moon that explained a difficult breakup I had as a teenager.

We really need to look at this aspect. The septile(aka Magic 7 Aspect) is 51 degrees 26. Test it out and share. Thank you for your participation.

Bryan

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Re: The Magic 7 Aspect and Solar Arcs
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2009, 02:28:10 AM »
Hi Bryan,

You are suggesting then, that the septile is a more powerful aspect than the trine or sextile which are also not used in SA's. Many people would disagreee!

That the septile was in operation during your difficult break up might - possibly - be an added factor but there were probably more dynamic measurements also occuring at the time - remember the rule of three, and perhaps include the septile as a fourth....


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Re: The Magic 7 Aspect and Solar Arcs
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2009, 07:36:52 PM »
star,

Perhaps many people would disagree but is this based on what traditonal astrology has taught them or by their own experience? And what I mean by experience is did they experiment with the septile enough to determine it to be such a minor aspect? Much of what is out there in the field of astrology is based on tradition and not based on experience. I think it's time we step out of the box and start with a fresh look on these subjects, especially so-called minor aspects.

To answer your question, I don't get much effect from the sextile or trine in solar arcs. The septile is considerably more powerful in my experience.

Bryan
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Re: The Magic 7 Aspect and Solar Arcs
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2009, 01:41:00 PM »
Hi  Bryan

Many people on this board would disagree simply because they practise astrology according to the methodology of Mr Tyl whose forum this is, and who does not use the septile in SA's. I have no doubt that Mr Tyl has looked very thoroughly into which aspects work most dynamically for SA's and which don't, and has not included the septile on the basis of his findings. However - if it works for you, use it! Keep testing it out on all the charts you work with, and let us know how your research goes!

Personally I use the septile and some other minor aspects, but have not found them to be significant in SA's.

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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2009, 04:07:48 PM »
For those who want to check out the efficacy of the septile series of aspects in transits, directions and progressions Solar Fire offers an excellent facility in its Graphic Ephemeris section.

Click the Dynamic Menu, then Graphic Ephemeris, then under Modulus angle choose 51'25'43'.  There is a section in this menu that allows you to choose transits, progressions or directions and the time period you want to observe.   When you have chosen click View and the Ephemeris will appear.

I am sure other major astrology programs also offer this facility.

Those who have natal septile patterns should find they are very responsive to septiles in transits or directions.

Personally I think they are worth looking into.

Alice McDermott

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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2009, 05:51:15 AM »
Alice,

Do you think the Septile series in something that needs to be "brought back to life?"  Are you considering anything written?

Check out Ray Noble's chart (no birthtime).

12/17/1903, Brighton, England

Classically trained, preferred Dance Orchestra, eventually into Radio...such folks seem to excel, to spark whatever vocation evolves.

There appear to be significant septiles here, with POF, Lilith-Sun, and Vertex (at first glance).  He sure impressed the Americans with his style.

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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2009, 10:05:07 AM »
Alice,

Septile with Vertex, I feel that 'psychic' energy gets to a point, where the 'flow' may be an issue.  I think my workplace mishap could very well be a sign to take a better look at my MC.  Things are becoming 'bottled up.'  Even in my home, the lights will all dim, before resetting.  I had the TV man out yesterday and it took him a very long time, finally changing all the wiring and boxes.  One set remains without sound?

I think of all Blain's Sabians, none is more intensely focused for me than my IC/MC.  Of course, it brings in equipment, displacement of self, the virtue of outcast, moments of testing, exposing flaws(frays)...all from his book.  Might I add 'live wire' especially with water.  It is getting harder and harder to function in the same way.  I guess that is what 'specialization' is all about.

Even my 'greenhouse' project, appears too costly...gotta create more Sun, which makes me consider a telescope into the dark may be more profitable and more suitable.

Could this be the hidden design with a septile?  the lull before the 'breakthrough' into a new venue?

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Re: The Magic 7 Aspect and Solar Arcs
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2009, 05:37:04 PM »
Alice,

Do you think the Septile series in something that needs to be "brought back to life?"  Are you considering anything written?

Check out Ray Noble's chart (no birthtime).

12/17/1903, Brighton, England

Classically trained, preferred Dance Orchestra, eventually into Radio...such folks seem to excel, to spark whatever vocation evolves.

There appear to be significant septiles here, with POF, Lilith-Sun, and Vertex (at first glance).  He sure impressed the Americans with his style.

Hi Lura

As we don't have a time of birth for Ray we can't use the position of the Moon, Vertex or Part of Fortune to determine aspects.

Though septiles can certainly indicate a measure of genius if combined with other factors in the chart, based on observations to date I tend to think the septile series of aspects are 'quiet and private' and the quintile series are 'noisy and public'.  In Ray's case I would expect to find strong quintile series aspects involving angles to describe his talent unless other factors brought the septiles into public prominence.

I tend to think that asteroids don't throw aspects and only consider them when they are in close conjunction with a planet or angle.  I don't use them in aspect patterns because they are so very, very tiny!  For this reason I also don't include Chiron in aspect patterns unless it is in close to exact aspect to a light.

Alice McDermott