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Author Topic: Voc Exs October 12-13, 2011  (Read 1820 times)
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« on: October 12, 2011, 06:52:09 AM »



Voc Exs October 12-13, 2011

A.  Female:  October 20, 1958 at 3:25 AM in Osaka JAPAN; Asc: 21Vir10

B.  Female: February 1, 1950 at 9:15 AM in Johannesburg SAFR; Asc: 27Pis55


These are difficult.  The first orientations appear unproductive. The key becomes letting a small network group dictate the whole profile, because it is alarmingly clearer than the initial observations; the tail wagging the dog, as it were!


Be patient with your brain as it discovers the way for you.

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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2011, 06:20:16 PM »

Dear Noel
Thanks for the exercise. Awaiting your edits.

A: MC = Saturn.Jupiter holding stellium with Mercry & Neptune in Scorpio; keys in Pluto touching Mars in 9. (Mars=Sun/Moon)

- The administration (Saturn) with publishing/teaching (Jupiter) & international outreach (the energy of Mars in 9)

- MC.Mercury<>Pluto - writing/communications & research in occult/spiritual/metaphysics (Mercury-Jupiter-Neptune).

This rather unusual & talented individuals vocare (Uranus! quintiles to Sun, Mars) is keenly focused on publishing her metaphysical discoveries.


B: MC = Uranus(AP).Moon* touching Mercury & Neptune in 7

- Individual stance and voice with a humanitarian agenda to help others.

- Uranus introduces the stellium in Aquarius; Sun-Venus-Jupiter.MC with Jupiter touching Pluto.
This reinforces humanitarian care for others introducing law (Jupiter) and making sweeping changes (Pluto).

A vocation in law/legal matters, assisting the plight of others is suggested within this routing.
(This could possibly see her as the people's 'spiritual leader'!!)

Rob C
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2011, 09:50:35 PM »

Hello Mr.tyl, hope you are well!

Female A: MH= Gemini (opp Sat) *Mer 2nd ( 10,1 ) * Plu< ( Plu (3) square mars ( 8 ) *Mer) *> Mer.
              Communication, dual career, administration, financial investments.
 
              Moon in 5th (11) * Sat * Jup (4) * Plu (3)< > Mer . teaching, publishing , needing to influence through communication.
              
              Plu(E) Powerful drive to allying with people of influence. Ap=Sun/Plu deep desire to influence and transform.

              This lady has administrative ties. Financial investments may feature. As well as publishing maybe even writing (quintiles to her
              moon , mh and pluto). She may have some prominent people as clients. She could travel and teach.

Female B:
             MH= Sag (opp Ur(!) in Can ) * Ju *Ur (!)(12) * Moon (5) * Publishing, humanitarian outlook, astrology, care giving, teaching.

             Mo in 4th (5) (opp Mer <> Sat in 6th, ) ties to care giving, teaching, medical field.

             Ur(!) Humanitarian, individualistic, unusual pursuits. Ju (E) Wants to get things done.  Ap= Ur know for individual, unusual , humanitarian  
             efforts.

             There is a strong need to be of service and take care of others. There may be alternative healing involved, or just a tie to the medical  industry. If she has another career, she may be linked to astrology or counseling and she may even teach.

              
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2011, 11:06:20 PM »

Good Morning Noel:

Female (A):

1) MC-ruler, Mer (-Jup,Nep,Plu)<>Plu3-Mar8…probing the psyche; communicating on spiritual/esoteric knowledge; therapy/healing.

2) Mo(Cap,=Sat/Plu).Sat(=MC)-Ven*2…needing to get things done administratively, in business, government or finance.

CONCLUSION: Two career streams are possible: 1) working in large business, legal, political, financial administrations. 2) psychological or therapeutic healing with a spiritual or esoteric dimension.

Female (B):

1) MC=Ura!12.Mo*-MerDSC<>Sat(6)…humanitarian giving and nurturing of others in an administrative or social service-oriented position.

2) MC-ruler, Jup-Su6-Ven8-Mar2-Nep-Plu9…service (again!); money-banking-accounting; esoteric knowledge (astrology) and spiritual development; education or law.

CONCLUSION:

One feels a strong humanitarian, social conscience and a caring spirit with this woman. Notice the powerful Uranus, the five planets in Air, the Aquarius stellium in the 11th. She’s a people person.

Also, I feel an orientation towards business services and organizational responsibilities. This may involve secretarial, accounting or administrative execution in a banking or legal environment.

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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2011, 07:39:44 AM »

Female
     1. Saturn opp MH, Moon Capricorn, a strong statement of business.
     2. String Saturn. (Jupiter.Pluto= big wealth). Merc mr Pluto in 12th, working
for a large organization or government.
     3. Saturn connects Uranus, r.6, humanitarian social services.
     4. Pluto connects Mars, ruler 8th, part of the financial axiis.  The large
stellium in the 2nd completes the financial axis.  Venus,r2-Node trine MH.
     5. Mars in the 9th suggests international financial transactions.
     6. 3 quintilles adds creativity to this money management.
STOP
     This person needs to manage finances internationally for a large orgnization
or government involved with social services.  Moon in 5th, Saturn, r5, adds
teaching, and Merc/Jupiter=Saturn adds writing, publishing about financiial
management as a possible second career.
     Pluto, r3 and Mars Gemini, add sales, real estate careers(Sat,4th).

Female
     1. MH.Jupiter.Uranus.Moon Cn, r5, FD.
     2. Neptune quintile MH.  Nept.Venus,r3.Uranu.Moon,r5, entertainer.
     3. Uranus/MC=MH echoes music as does Venus-Nep in #2.
        
STOP
     This person needs to be an entertainer in the music field, as a singer.
Some humanitarian, charity support is indicated by Venus-Sun-Jupiter  Aquarius,
Moon in caring Cancer.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2011, 01:04:39 AM »

Hello, Mr. Tyl and everybody,

Thank you very much for the fascinating case examples of MHEP.

No. 1 : Female

1. Gemini MH with Saturn and Venus directly touching it.  Mercury(-Jupiter-Neptune)<>Pluto3.  Research and communication on something beautiful and spiritual comes to mind. 

2. Saturn ruling 5th with Venus ruling 9th, as well as Moon in 5th suggest teaching.

STOP

This lady needs to research something beautiful or spiritual and teach about the subject.

No. 2 : Female

1. Sagittarius MH : Jupiter(-Sun-Venus-Pluto).Uranus!.Moon5(-Mercury-Neptune).  Expression and communication of unique aesthetic sensitivity comes to mind. 

2. Sun/Moon=Mercury/Jupiter.  Channel of expression might include writing.

STOP

This lady needs to express and communicate her aesthetic sensitivity uniquely, and possibly write about it.

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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2011, 05:47:08 AM »

Good Morning, Noel!

You're right. These are challenging. We shall see...

Miss Japan:

Double-bodied MC suggests more than one vocation.

1. MC keys Me in II rul 1 <> Pl in XII rul 3; Me in touch w/Ne rul 7  (Me=Ne=A/M) in touch w/Ju in Scorpio; stellium in II; angular Sa rul 5 containing Moon = Me/Ve; Ve FD in II rul 2, 9

Need to be a powerful visionary concerned with intangibles -- but what kind? Music, perhaps. Artistic expression, need to be a disciplined performer of work that is on display. A missionary sense of the work to be done -- how is faith incorporated into her work?  She needs to be seen as an authority in her field of expertise (I suppose with Saturn angular administration/teaching/business is suggested). Probably a concern with finance/worth or a product specifically created to generate value.

STOP

This woman needs to be a visionary creator/communicator -- of considerable gravitas -- concerned with intangible values.

Miss South Africa -- another double-bodied MC -- more than one vocation

1. Ju. Ur! angular in IV rul 12. Mo FD iin IV rul 5; Ju-Su-Ve stellium in XI; AP = Ur! = MC

Need to be known for disrupting status quo using behind the scenes perspective for the good of a humanitarian cause; need to be concerned with homeland security issues and possibly teach/coach.

STOP

Thank you -- gotta fly -- looking forward to the wrap

EG

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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2011, 07:09:58 AM »

Good morning Noel,


Female 1

MC in Gem with Mer (in 2 cj Ju r4.Nep r7) <> Plu 12r3 –powerful and perfectionist communication skills…

The Moon in Cap 5r11, a huge need to be appreciated by things done – (Moon – Sat.MC –Jup –Pluto <> Mer) adds a very practical hard-working dimension and also a teaching hint…The Moon qd Uranus r6 and aspects Mars r8 – humanistic/helping concerns, alternative healing.  

Ve* in 2 also r9, closely aspects Nodes, MC, Sun r12 and Sat r5 also in close aspect to MC –emphasizes public and also suggests teaching/coaching/consulting.

Stop -With a Gem MC, multiple paths may be expected; as a central theme, a strong public appeal and soloistic communication seems suggested; a teaching purpose seems to join spiritual/artistic sensibility/concerns and also an administrative/business flair…so this lady could perfectly run her own alternative healing business where her powerful communication skills could efficiently help her to reach/teach/coach others.


Female 2
MC in Sag – Ju.Su (6).Ve (3,8) – Uranus^!.MC (12) –Moon*4r5 – Teaching/coaching seems a natural expression to a huge need to nurture/help;
Me in 10r 4,7 <> Sat (6r11), qd Ura and opp Moon – humanistic concerns strongly link to the unknown, death, hospitals, the 12 H matters; MC=Asc=Mars/Sat.

STOP – It seems that this Lady has something to say/teach even write (Sun/Moon=Mer/Ju) in order to help others on spiritual/metaphysical matters.  


Wish you a niece weekend.

Regards,

Julieta
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2011, 09:50:17 AM »

*** This week, I see that individual edits would be repetitive, since no one has really tuned in; these are difficult cases indeed.  I was also bewildered.  So please let the wrap-ups speak editorially to us all.    

SPECIAL NOTE: Ryuichi has done fine work here….congratulations, you are almost in the center of the target and would certainly have adjusted quickly in consultation.



WRAP-UPS

A.  Female:  October 20, 1958 at 3:25 AM in Osaka JAPAN; Asc: 21Vir10

1. Mercury rules the Midheaven and is in mutual reception with Pluto, which goes to Mars to Mercury , a seemingly non-productive loop.

2. But Mercury is related to Neptune and Jupiter. The Moon is reaching for Neptune from the 5th --This emphasis on Neptune gives us something to go on: managing things aesthetic, with Saturn ruling the 5th .  And Saturn is in touch with the Midheaven. Saturn disposits the Moon in the 5th.  All of it now hangs together.

STOP

This lady long ago studied art; she ‘shows art’ in her demeanor.  --To date, she has sold jewelry for her work (see the 2nd House grouping); I urged her to open up her life now …with Sun=MH building, by teaching art.  --The Moon-Neptune tie is that telling.


B.    Female: February 1, 1950 at 9:15 AM in Johannesburg SAFR; Asc: 27Pis55

1. Jupiter rules the Midheaven and is with the Sun, ruling the 6th.Uranus or Sun-Jupiter to Pluto … non-productive.

2.  But the 4th is accentuated by Uranus^ there, disposited by the Moon*.  The Moon is in contact with the Neptune, which is in contact (quintile) with the Midheaven.  --What ties Aesthetics to the Home?

STOP

I suggested strongly “interior design”  ... even at age 61.  --Marvelously corroborating: this lady studied Interior Design some time ago; her study was interrupted by family considerations.  I urged her to resume; and --lo and behold!--she was actually planning to do that in quite a big way!  The astrologer’s corroboration was emphatically important indeed!  --Again, the Moon-Neptune tie was that telling.


---I was in a quandary about the Japanese client; I felt I had little to go on. The resolution came to me in that quiet moment just before the client arrives.  Suddenly it was there … and I heard inner voices and memories of our learning saying, “Neptune speaks again!”

When I met the SAFR client, I had already spotlighted Neptune in my preparation and I was much more secure.

Fascinating!

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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2011, 12:45:10 PM »

Thank-you Noel.

Regards,

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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2011, 10:24:31 PM »

Wow I really missed the mark!! Thank you Mr.Tyl.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2011, 05:38:42 PM »

Dear Mr. Tyl,

Thank you very much for the comment and wrap-ups.  I am glad that I did well this time.  For the first case, I was thinking about aroma teacher because sometimes we see aroma specialist with 2nd house emphasis.  But after I have done the profiling, I noticed that I knew the person and how those are related to her reality.  For the second case, I couldn't have included about 4th emphasis because recently I have raised 4th house theme several times and turned out irrelevant so I become a little too cautious.

Sincerely,

ryu
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