Voc Exs December 23-24,2015

[Noel Tyl]

Voc Exes  December 23-24


Show Off TIME!!!!!!!!!!

Please share one or two of the vocational guidance successes you have had
in your work with a client!

Follow the format we use here.  Edit tightly.

And enjoy your success..

--Joyeux Noel

[Barbara Ybarra]

I wouldn't call this a success of mine, since this person is only 15, but it is not too early for her parents to think about it. 

Anyone who has 0 Capricorn MH will need to have a position of some authority in their career.  I suppose for a woman, it might have, in the past, meant being married to a person with authority.  It might still.

1. We see MH.Saturn-Jupiter-Venus in the 2nd house; opposition Moon in Scorpio on 8th; financial security and/or traditional-fixed protection and enforcement.

2. Mars opposite-Mercury opposition to Pluto supports this.

3. Jupiter-Saturn suggests the "mission" in life.  Jupiter rules 8th, can bring in internationalism

STOP:  This person will need to take a position of authority regarding the comfort and security of society at large, and perhaps take some responsibility for enforcement of the rules.

This girl's father works in security in a large way (not "Homeland" but similar).  Currently she is very shy.

I am encouraging her in engaging in speech-debate so that she can learn to get her ideas across in a diplomatic manner.

Thanks.  Comments from others are appreciated.

Barbara Ybarra

[Zuri]

I don't have clients, since I'm not a professional astrologer! I'm merely a hobbyist of astrology (and I analyze charts of relatives, friends, etc. for free to improve my skills). Three years ago, I posted this thread where I analyzed my vocational profile:

http://noeltyl.com/discussion/index.php?topic=5577.msg30285#msg30285

Now that I'm much better at vocational profiling, I revisited my profile. I see A LOT that I missed back in 2012 as a newbie:

1. MC ruler Ve_5,10(-Ne₃) (11) in SCO contacts Mo₇ ( 8 ) in LEO. Ve-Ne also contacts Plu₁₁ (-Ma₄) (9) in VIR(-LIB), which disposits Ve-Ne + Ura!₂ (9) in LIB widely conjunct Ma-Plu: Aesthetics. Performance. Humanitarianism. Delving deeply into issues. Public exposure. Needs to stand out. Alternative healing methodologies. Communications. Protest. "Correcting" others. Families/ethnicity/nation. Equality. Ultra-individualistic. Avant-garde philosophy. Revolutionary/anarchist tendencies (Ura!-Ma wide conjunction in 9th, in Air sign)

2. Su₈ (-Me_6,9) (10) in SCO(-LIB) conjunct MC. Su-Me also contact Mo, which contacts MC + Mercury=Sun/MC. Moon touches Node = Communications-related career confirmed. Public service. Needs to be own boss. Government. Ego need for prominence.

3. Mo & Ju!₁₂ (10) in SCO widely contact Sa₁ (4-into-5) in TAU, MC ruler Ve-Ne contacts Sat. Plu-Ma widely contacts Sat + Mars/Pluto=Sun/Moon. Ne contacts Plu-Ma = Sense of justice. Government. Protest. Obsessed with joining a cause bigger than self. Administrative touch. Works behind the scenes. Strong drive to be powerful in life, as fighter/advocate. Touch of mysticism in activism.

Conclusion: This lady is likeliest a political/social change activist, who communicates a very avant-garde philosophy and incorporates alternative healing methodologies in her work. Likely self-employed.

That's not actually what I currently do for a living (for now), but it's what I SHOULD be doing. My life trajectory has pretty much followed my natal chart. I've worked in the non-profit, political, education, and arts arenas. Most of my career has indeed involved overseeing / doing communications of some sort. I hold minarchist/libertarian-conservative views, although I had a very brief flirtation with socialism back in college ("avant-garde philosophy"/"revolutionary tendencies"). However, I've never desired to work in corporate America despite being a staunch capitalist (which has had many people whom I know scratching their heads). My natal chart explains why I'm not primarily driven by economic considerations....

[Barbara Ybarra]

Hi Zuri.

 I'm glad you chose to share your own chart.  I went back to your first post and agreed with that post too.  To me it seems that your vocation is first and foremost a writer, communicator, no matter what your passions are that you write about.  It's no wonder that you are more conservative, with the Saturn in Taurus so involved with your MH (almost a T-square), and Saturn ruling your ASC.  With that Southern Hemisphere emphasis, you would naturally be a writer for the people  rather than, say, a fiction writer.  Right now I feel that sometimes the true avant-garde are not the liberals, for they can be every bit as mindless as conservatives might be, just jumping on any ole band-wagon that looks like their sort of wagon (without using one brain cell).   

[Zuri]

Thank you for your comments, Barbara! What I see in the 15-year-old girl's chart provided:

1. Mo_4,5 ( 8 ) in SCO contacts MC ruler SatE_10,11 (-Ve*_2,7)(-Ju₉) (-Su₆₎(2) in TAU. Mo directly contacts Ve*-Sun-Ju-Sat + 2nd house stellium = Finance/economics. Administration. Law. Nation. Sense of mission. Humanitarianism. Public exposure. Public service. Security. Delving deeply into issues.

2. Mo & MC ruler Sat both contact Ura₁₂ (12) in AQU = Government/large institution. Humanitarianism

3. Me₃ (2-into-3) in GEM widely conjunct Su; conjunct Ma₁ (3) in GEM = Communications & salesmanship of information.

This young lady will likeliest be an economist or financial analyst for a government institution. Her ideal career will play to her love for finance/economics, give her a sense of mission, and enable her to serve the public while researching and "advertising"/"selling" government policies.

[Barbara Ybarra]

Thank you, Zuri!

[Hudson Valley Astrologer]

Dear Forum,

Once upon a time I shared with this young man a viewpoint to help him decide between choosing a job with a commercial real estate company and a small company in the Los Angeles area that specializes in placing art work and theatrical accouterments. He chose the small company specializing in art.

1.) Libra MC ruler Venus. Saturn*

2.) Saturn-Neptune in contact with the MC

3.) Jupiter in touches the MC

4.) Moon in 10 in touch with Venus

5.) Moon Q Uranus! Pluto E

STOP

A take charge personality with sensitivity toward others beckons notoriety quite possibly through the management and/or administration of others/art. No doubt an avenue where unique individualism presses for recognition in its own right as AN ARTIST/manager of artists/art.

HVA

[Hudson Valley Astrologer]

Hi Barb,

Just have to share this... hope its additive...

The picture that come to mind for me. STOP

AP MC r by Saturn.Venus*-Jupiter₉

A big public international voice.

Moon=Sun/Mercury and Mar Asc³-Neptune

This young woman will learn that she needs to/will promote herself. She has the charisma, emotional sensitivity and awareness to get the job done. That stelium in the 2nd screams money opposed the 8th house Moon… the 5th house here instead of teaching or performing might be speculation in the classic sense.

She may well ‘be’ an investment banker… international business consultant… a very high profile one…

HVA

[Don Borkowski]

I have a client with a special talent, and I used the MHEP to provide astrological validation for her using it vocationally.

Female:
October 4, 1959
3:03 a.m.
Forest Park (Portland), Oregon
Asc. 3:57 Virgo

This lady has been psychic all of her life.  She approached me for some vocational counseling.  Working as a psychic or an astrologer is a rarefied field that will require an additional vocational outlet.  Still, drilling the MC down,
we have MC Taurus. VE_3,10(12)<>ME _1,2,10(2).  The 2nd house influence shows her preference for face-to-face interaction with clients.
Other items include Pluto E, and she has met several celebrities in her back-up occupation as a retail clerk.
Psychics should have very prominent outer planet involvement.  Here she has the Moon conjunct Neptune _7,8, and Pluto₄ conjunct the ascendant.  The Sun₁₂ is peregrine, and the 12th house holds Uranus ₆.
Additionally, she has ME=SU/MO, which suggests that her mindset can focus on relationships, which is a rather common topic for which psychics are consulted.
As far as I am concerned, her astrology does support her desire.

This woman can be found on Facebook as Janet the Intuitive.

Don Borkowski

[James Williams]

Thank you Don.  Wonderful presentation.  I also see that she has a strong Aries Point (AP) final dispositor Saturn, which rules the 5th House, and is closely conjunct the 5th House.  So authoritative (Saturn), creative, self-expression (5th House).

Her vocation is even more easily seen in her Vedic astrology charts.  If she has an emerald gemstone, it would be beneficial for her to wear it at this time, along with the color green.  Yellows would also be a good color for her.  Pearl gemstones and white/off-white/silver/grey colors would most likely be more detrimental for her.

[Don Borkowski]

Interesting point, James.  It is said that a well-tensioned Saturn can help an intuitive person think "outside the box."  By the way, her favorite color is green.

~D.B.