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Offline Noel Tyl

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North Korea
« on: April 14, 2016, 07:29:27 AM »


With the very good work done by the late Neville Lang (Australia) on the horoscope for North Korea, it seems we are ‘close’ to a reliable portrait.

Lang’s final data: 9 September (not 10) 1948  at 5:27 PM JST (Midheaven 2Sag51; Ascendant 14Aqu26) in Pyongyjang (125 E 45; 39N01).

SA Moon is applying to the Ascendant now, exact in July 2018, with tr Neptune opposed the Sun and tr Uranus opposed Mars.

Perhaps careful research further with this data will produce  reliable results, in North Korea’s troubled missile-threatening times now.

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Offline James Williams

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Re: North Korea
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2016, 05:02:32 PM »
"There is no step along the road that anyone takes by chance. It has already been taken by him, although he has not yet embarked on it. For time but seems to go in one direction. We undertake a journey that is over. Yet it seems to have a future still unknown to us." "  (Jesus).

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Re: North Korea
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2016, 02:38:01 AM »
“The Day of the Sun is an annual public holiday in North Korea, falling on 15 April***, the birthday of Kim Il-sung, founder and president of North Korea. It is the most important national holiday of the country.

Kim Il-sung's birth anniversary, which had been an official holiday since 1968, was renamed Day of the Sun in 1997, three years after his death. The name takes its significance from the name of the leader. Il-sung is Korean for "become the Sun".

Kim II-sung
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kim_II_Sung
Kim Jong Il
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kim_Jong_Il
Kim Jong Un ****
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kim_Jong_Un

All this Sung, Kim trilogy reminds me of the Sun King (le Roi-Soleil) progeny and how it all ended:

Louis XIV of France
Louis XV of France
Louis XVI of France


*** Right on time to celebrate with a sung!!!

"It's Your Birthday !#"(Explicit)
Now right now we need to see
Who the # is in the [?] tonight
Leo's up in this #, Virgo's up in this #
Scorpio's in this #, Taurus' up in this #
Got them Cancer's up in this #
etc…

http://tinyurl.com/j24s6w2

**** NK News: Regarding his birthday: according to your book Kim Jong Un was born on January 8, 1983. However, North Korea’s official records say the birth year is 1982. On the other hand, South Korean intelligence concluded Kim’s birth year was 1984. Are you sure about 1983?

Fujimoto: Definitely. For birthdays we always had to write cards. Gen. Jong Chol’s birthday is September 25. (Kim Jong Un’s sister) Princess Yo Jong’s birthday is September 26. They were one day apart. So we’d write them a card around the same time. And Gen. Jong Un’s birthday is January 8. I had to write cards, so of course I know his birthday.
https://www.nknews.org/2014/01/chef-says-kim-jong-un-showed-leadership-potential-early/

News update:

"North Korea attempted and failed to launch what experts believe was an intermediate-range ballistic missile on Friday in defiance of U.N. sanctions and in an embarrassing setback for leader Kim Jong Un, drawing criticism from major ally China.

The failed launch, as the reclusive country celebrates the "Day of the Sun" on the birthday of Kim's grandfather, follows the North's fourth nuclear test in January and a long-range rocket launch in February, which led to new U.N. sanctions."
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missile-idUSKCN0XC010
« Last Edit: April 16, 2016, 06:31:48 AM by Antonio »

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Re: North Korea
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2016, 05:47:41 AM »
Hello Noel and Forum,

I am posting a link to the chart of Kim Jong-un, North Korea’s leader –

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kim_Jong_Un

I was curious about the charts of Kim Jong-un and North Korea, and discovered that he brings strong solar identification and synastry to the North Korea chart. His natal Capricorn Sun trines the North Korea Virgo Sun, adding cardinal leadership, impact, and a higher profile, perhaps, to serve his country.

Commandeering North Korea’s nuclear armament and threats, ruler Kim Jong-un’s drive for power – with transiting Uranus-Pluto intensifying (square-conjunct) his ambitious natal Capricorn Sun – may importantly advance his country’s nuclear capability. Reflecting this astrology focus and intensity, perhaps he views this military mission as a supreme test, so to speak, for his (Capricorn) achievement as Supreme Leader. And, in his role as North Korea's (father) protector - with his Sun opposing the U.S. Sun, in the Sibley chart - he may naturally concentrate on the U.S. as North Korea's major enemy.   

He already has demonstrated strict authoritarian rule and enforcement in office, by ‘purging’ (executing) members in his regime and family who were supposedly disobedient or disloyal. His natal chart (I'm using the 8 January 1983 chart) emphasizes critical decision-making and handling life and death issues - with his Sun-ruling natal Saturn, in demanding Scorpio, conjunct natal Pluto (extreme focus on work, respect, tradition), and squaring his natal Mercury-Venus thoughts and feelings, in rationalizing Aquarius. Certainly looks like seed energy for formidable conflict, elimination, and detachment on the job; not to mention a provocative or dangerous foe. 

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Re: North Korea
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2016, 10:06:53 AM »
Yes, I think it would be smart for us to keep an eye on N. Korea, and not to underestimate it.  In addition to the SA Moon applying to the ASC, there will be next year the SA Saturn conjunct to the Nodal axis, surely significant regarding solidifying plans which ensure the security that they want.  Saturn rules the 12th house of secrets and isolation.  Also, SA Venus next year will conjunct the natal Mercury.  Venus rules the 8th, and Mercury the IC - the homeland.  None of this looks edifying for N. Korea, knowing their history and their motives.


The PR Moon will be square to their natal Pluto in two months time.  Pluto rules the 9th house of foreign negotiations. We will see what China does to back N.Korea or not back them.   Tr Saturn conjuncts Jupiter in December of this year, and is another solidifying agent of that government...not that there is any lack of calcification in that country.   Lots going on in that chart, movement which may bring them to crisis.

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Re: North Korea
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2016, 08:55:58 PM »
I am not a mundane astrologer. but I do enjoy putting charts into the computer and studying them.  I did run into a little bug in my Win-Star program:  It seems that it doesn't recognize the capital of N. Korea as being Pyongyang; Instead, one has to add an apostrophe, making it "P'yongyang".  It doesn't work without it.

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Re: North Korea
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2016, 05:25:36 AM »
 I find Noel's mentioning of summer 2018 as a key time for North Korea extremely interesting. I have had already an "transit alarm" generally going for summer of 2018, because since history the very outmost extremes of the Declinations of Mars, have shown to be potent in bringing World wide mars events like wars and sgnificant terror acts (9/11).

1.)  Declinations of Mars

https://anzaskies.wordpress.com/2011/12/02/mars-cycles/
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The highest declinational values for Mars for the years 1900 to 2020:

 1907 Jul 29 20:05 0.4266 -28° 53? 55? 151.6° << Banker’s Panic
 1986 Aug 02 03:20 0.4225 -28° 42? 56? 152.0° << Iran/Contra scandal
 1954 Jul 19 05:42 0.4479 -28° 22? 15? 149.9° << Vietnam War begins (pre-USA)
 1939 Aug 13 02:46 0.4057 -27° 23? 23? 154.5° << WW II
 2001 Aug 25 07:56 0.6679 -27° 01? 36? 111.1° << WTC terrorism
 2001 Jul 06 00:11 0.4648 -26° 51? 30? 152.1°)<< WTC terrorism
 2001 Jul 20 19:06 0.5063 -26° 50? 11? 136.8° << WTC terrorism
 1922 Sep 03 06:51 0.7395 -26° 46? 16? 104.6° << Palestinian Mandate
2018 Aug 16 11:24 0.4028 -26° 29? 52? 155.1° << ???
 1969 Sep 15 12:48 0.8928 -26° 15? 46? 94.0° << (no one remembers due to LSD)
 1922 Jun 27 06:10 0.4613 -26° 08? 06? 158.7° << Palestenian Mandate
 1922 Jul 12 23:04 0.4966 -26° 06? 03? 141.3° << Palestinian Mandate

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1991 Mar 30 07:38 1.5084 +25° 22? 25? 78.9° << Yugoslavian Wars
 1978 Feb 18 00:57 0.7485 +25° 26? 44? 144.0°
 1944 Mar 23 00:43 1.3940 +25° 31? 42? 85.1°
 1976 Jan 29 20:39 0.8140 +25° 36? 48? 126.1° << Argentina’s Dirty War
 1976 Mar 07 07:29 1.1653 +25° 50? 28? 98.5° << Argentina’s Dirty War
 1975 Dec 20 10:32 0.5790 +26° 04? 08? 172.6° << Argentina’s Dirty War
 1946 Feb 07 15:11 0.7250 +26° 35? 04? 146.9°
 1929 Jan 01 01:59 0.6137 +26° 47? 16? 165.0° << Great Depression
 2008 Jan 07 04:29 0.6282 +26° 58? 59? 161.2° << Great Recession
 1993 Jan 30 09:08 0.7029 +27° 01? 17? 149.6° << WTC terrorism
 1914 Jan 26 17:53 0.6920 +27° 11? 04? 151.4° << WW I
 1961 Jan 17 01:13 0.6622 +27° 13? 29? 155.7° << JFK Inaugurated


2.)
Mars turns Rx summer of 2018 in tandem with the South node.
Mars in combination with the Nodes is often associated with violence and aggression
worldy. This is especially interesting when also in North Koreas natal chart we have
a radix Mars S. Node conjunction, which is mirrored mundanely here.


3.)
 Transiting Mars and S.Node is squaring transiting Uranus at that time as well.


4.)
A series of quite interesting Eclipses which sets off the chart of North Korea is ahead.
Radix Pluto at the descendant (opponents) is eclipse activated ahead.
The Ascendant of North korea is having a Close eclipse 2017.
Summer of 2018 have an eclipse squaring North korea's Mars in 10th house which can trigger the
government aggressively. Also Saturn is eclipse activated.

Very potent patterns imo...

« Last Edit: April 19, 2016, 05:31:48 AM by Atma »

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Re: North Korea
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2016, 05:34:12 AM »
I experienced a similar ‘problema’ as Don. Janus software shows a lot of apostrophes in the list for NK cities but, specifically for Pyongyang, it shows as printed in the chart below. BTW, it looks very interesting… not flat at all.




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Re: North Korea
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2016, 04:56:25 PM »
In the chart of Kim Jong Unglued, two planets stopped on his natals.
Trans still rx  Pluto is on his natal Sun and Trans Rx still Mars is on his Venus. The world should  be cautious regarding  him at this time.

 This is a great time to inspect the Pyongyang chart-arcs transits progressions etc,.

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Re: North Korea
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2016, 04:51:21 AM »
“Casting Kim Jong-un's horoscope presents a challenge because though we know he's a Capricorn, born 8 January, we cannot be certain of his birth year. Until recently North Korea gave it as 1983. Then the nation gifted him an extra year of maturity, making it 1982, perhaps embarrassed by his relative youth on the world stage. His father's ex-sushi chef supports 1983 as birth year.

But perhaps the "Dear Leader’s doting late opera singer mother, Ko Yong-hui, gave the game away when she described her son as the "Morning Star King". This must refer to planet Venus (nicknamed Phosphoros, "bringer of light", by the Ancient Greeks) which at times can be seen at dawn. For 8 January (among the candidate years for his nativity, '82-'84) it was visible before sunrise only in 1984, approximately around 7:00. And he's not just the Morning Star King. His birthday is shared with the "King", Elvis Presley. We can only assume Kim Jong-un's birthplace is Pyongyang.”

http://www.astrologicalassociation.com/intheloop/intheloop_articles/north_korea.php

The same theory, proposing a 7:15 AM birth time:
http://solarisastrology.blogspot.pt/2011/12/kim-jong-un-morning-star-king-rules.html

Ko Yong-hui
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko_Yong-hui

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Re: North Korea
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2016, 07:35:02 AM »
I vote for a time of 7:22 am in 1983 for KJU.  This puts solar arc Uranus arriving to the degree of the ASC just 2 months after his father's death, and it puts the transiting Sun-Pluto at 7 Capricorn on the day of his father's death right on his ASC.  It sounds a little too perfect, but why not?  There was also a lot going on at that time when his father died with Saturn-Jupiter at the MC-IC, and puts his natal Pluto up at the MC.

In any case, we should be aware, as Steven 7 says, that Pluto is at his natal Sun.  He is currently at his nastiest.

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Re: North Korea
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2016, 08:42:26 AM »
There are lots of wild transits for NK this year.

 Trans RX Pluto will trine the natal Sun

Tr RX Mars  soon to  sextile natal Mercury

Tr  RX  Saturn to trine natal Pluto



This one may  be cause for alarm

Full Moon 21-May-16     01° 13? Sagittarius 21:14
 The Sun Full Moon midpoint aligns with  the natal Sun Pluto midpoint at 1 degree Virgo in the 10th lunar house. Can also be expressed as FM Square that natal Sun Pluto midpoint.

New Moon 01-Oct-16   08° 15? Libra 00:11
Conjunct NK's natal Mercury in the 8th  House  =  11th lunar house
Natal Mercury sits at 8 ds-29 mns Libra in the company of  Neptune  11-46 Libra



Bear in mind that Mars Still RX transit  8-53 Sagittarius on April 18th  was exactly opposite Uranus in the USA  July 4th 1776 chart 8-55 Gemini
   Gemini is 7 houses  from NK's Moon
 So that Still Mars is in NK's 1st Lunar house  near it's Moon.  Mars RX will cross NK's Moon on May 11th.
  Moon is the mind and public eye, Under severe militant  Mars RX influence.


New Moon 01-Oct-16    08° 15? Libra 00:11  will trine USA Uranus  8-55 Gemini

  Charts of  USA, Japan, South Korea as well as Un-glued  Kimmy the Cuckoo Clock should be inspected  at this time.
 Maybe the death of Prince punctuates this moment in time  synchronistically  with his famous song "Let's Go Crazy ".

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Re: North Korea
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2016, 10:07:09 PM »
The secret life of Kim Jong Un’s aunt, who has lived in the U.S. since 1998

"Even though Ko and Ri have not seen Kim Jong Un in almost 20 years and do not appear to have held official positions, U.S. intelligence on North Korea is so thin that this couple still represents a valuable source of information on the family court.

They can reveal, for example, that Kim Jong Un was born in 1984 — not 1982 or 1983, as has been widely thought. The reason they’re certain? It was the same year that their first son was born. “He and my son were playmates from birth. I changed both of their diapers,” Ko said with a laugh."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/the-secret-life-of-kim-jong-uns-aunt-who-has-lived-in-the-us-since-1998/2016/05/26/522e4ec8-12d7-11e6-a9b5-bf703a5a7191_story.html

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Re: North Korea
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2016, 06:46:25 AM »
Antonio thanks for your research, 84 would make him a scarier cat.
 It  has Pluto Mars conjunct ,  " Holy Gamma Rays Batman"
 For the corker a 1984 chart would  put his  Uranus  with the USA  Ascendant of the Sibley chart.

Maybe Isaac  or  some others that do rectification will give their opinion.

America's psychopathic candidate Hillary also has Mars conjunct Pluto.