Author Topic: The Subversion of Democracy by the theft of Millions of Facebook Profiles  (Read 635 times)

Offline Pamela Young

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I was stunned when I read the following article; I really live in la-la-land, I guess.  To say it's shocking is a major understatement.  But it's interesting to look at the (sunrise) chart of the person responsible, Christopher Wylie, someone I had never heard of.  It's extremely unnerving to realize that world events are being influenced, if not controlled, by someone totally unelected and unknown to the public.  Only 28 now, he was several years younger when he got together with Steve Bannon and Robert Mercer; he is Canadian (oh, great), vegan, gay, as a child was diagnosed as having ADHD and dyslexia, left school at 16 with no credentials at all, and ended up in London, England, overseeing the Cambridge Analytica operations.  He is described as Machiavellian.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/data-war-whistleblower-christopher-wylie-faceook-nix-bannon-trump/

Christopher Wylie was born November 18, 1990, in Vancouver, British Columbia.  I will try to post a chart.
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Offline Antonio

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Thank you, Pam!

In 2010, attempts were made here to rectify Zuck's chart (by Isaac Starkman, Lauren Delsack & others.):
http://noeltyl.com/discussion/index.php?topic=2727.msg22802#msg22802

And then some more, in later years... Kannon McAfee has done some work about it, but then he has lost interest in this nerd!
Maybe now the rectifiers have more data to work with.

Direct link to all the Forum posts about Mark Zuckerberg:
https://tinyurl.com/y8zo7euz

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Zuckerberg,_Mark
https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Mark_Zuckerberg
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Thank you so much for all these links, Antonio.  I hadn't realized that Mark Zuckerberg's birth time was unknown; maybe Isaac could have another go at it, now that there's all this extra info. 

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Wow! Pam, that was some article...

I hadn't heard of Chris Wylie either... I actually thought that the Mercer's had a bigger role in creating "targeting" campaigns via social media and algorithms by tapping into the brain power on staff with Renaissance Capital, itself an extraordinary market performer: Performance almost unreal, actually definitely unreal. Like 40% per year for 40 years or something crazy. No economics or people with market experience but instead a cadre of ex-IBMers like Mercer himself, physicists and engineers.

I got to thinking about this more simply. Propaganda is nothing new.

Edward Bernays fashioned support, or "engineered consent" for the US prior to our involvement in WWII. Bernays is a fascinating figure and there are plenty of YouTubes covering his exploits. He basically thought that the masses are ignorant and NEED to be led by an intellectually elite and superior force; the business elite and government leaders. And although he was pro capital he was also very much a liberal in that he saw government’s role as essential.

I think the interesting thing about the revelation with facebook is not the abuse of privacy or the psychographics but violation of subliminal advertising rules (there is no law in the US against subliminal advertising only “rules” imposed by the FCC) that clearly have manipulated and deceived the masses by false narratives masquerading as news. Strangely, Trump took this accusation and turned it on its head using none other than Noam Chomsky’s ideation that main stream media sets the agenda falsely. How Trump appropriates ideas from others is remarkable in my opinion. 

Neptune is traveling through the 3rd house of the Sibly chart. The country is spun around and confused; communication is distorted, manipulated, and obfuscated by people who maniacally believe in their cause or simply want to affect the price of assets they own. Ray Merriman has discussed Trump’s Secondary progressed Jupiter coming to his Natal Venus ruling the MC. Magnificent success and the accumulation of massive wealth is one interpretation. If the impeachment cycle is real then Trump cannot escape it even with Mars in Leo. He has SA VenusMC-3=Neptune8 which we might normally associate with an affair, a “swoon” as Noel wrote. But I wonder if he loses something here? Do his “lies” catch up with him? Transiting Neptune-Jupiter at 17 Picses and 18 Sagittarius respectively square Trump’s natal Uranus. His Leo Mars is like 9 cats with 9 lives. Maybe this astrological set up is an indication of living politically to fight another day, and gloating at his survival and accomplishments. Maybe he is ready to resign… Transiting Uranus is creeping up to his Natal Pluto, exact in 2020… overturning the tables as it were after having gone rogue and independent as suggested by the previous transiting Jupiter-Neptune influence, and something we see manifesting now. Fascinatingly, the opposition to this chameleon of a President, a once stalwart supported of Democrats, fails to see that we live in a recursive system wherein their very opposition and critique both helped create Trump AND keep him in power.

But the bias' suffered by the public is apolitical. All sides suffer from what Gaetano Kanizsa called our inherent capacity to "see blind spots." Google Kanizsa images... The messages of security, freedom and justice are cover for moving in a direction that will increase power for whoever holds that power (a shell game). Power has been relinquished by the academic elites and taken up by "private interests." The Private Ownership class holds the assets that they basically want to appreciate in value and blame misguided policy and overreach for past under performance. They will “manufacture inflation” by “manufacturing consent” (which in the extreme is war). And if we take a peek at their portfolios we might see that they are positioning for a breakout in inflation, which otherwise has been held down by productivity gains, and the population's rate of growth slowing (not inept governance). These efforts to create inflation could and eventually will backfire and power will swing back away from “Buccaneers” back to the "elites".

Martin Armstrong piqued my interest back in 2015. He’s a self-proclaimed “cycles” analyst. For a long time he was convinced that Hillary would win the Presidency but equally convinced that the “impeachment cycle” would take her out of office. To his credit he also hedged his bet saying that “Socrates” (his own algo…) predicted a Trump win. Oddly, he doesn’t speak much about the impeachment cycle anymore but I suspect that it is still in play.

Armstrong is obsessively on the side of private capital and agrees with Barnays idea that the “smartest person in the room” is not “the people” … he seems to be a Bernaysian advocate only from the right and in defense of capitalism… strangely he is also a Putin admirer. I heard about “Clinton Emails” on his site at least 8 months before it was public. My suspicion is that he has Mercer’s ear and that Wylie has his own agenda. Wylie is a pawn and was directed by the likes of Mercer and Bannon. Propaganda is nothing new but what is new is what Wylie did adding computer power, speed and targeting capabilities like we’ve never seen before. So called psychographics have been around a long time, but here PERSONALITY insights based on what people pay attention and where they live is interesting. But we must remember that those insights are deduced not so much revealed. The “science” of BIG DATA made it possible to draw such correlations, but correlation is not causation. So, I am unconvinced by the premise that “politics has changed because the ‘marketers’ somehow affect culture.” It looks much more like exploitation to me. Coercing and “engineering consent” (Bernays term) to get people to support any particular agenda, by manipulating what Bateson called their “mental models” or representations of the world with specific stimuli suggests that the propaganda process worked and continues to work. 

I think the other thing that is new, and only emerging, is the transparency of a translucent core. Far from being ignorant, the masses are learning and adapting quickly. This aspect is not appreciated by any think tank that I know of and certainly not by any regimes in power. The ability to parse information is empowering the public, in its nascent form it is barely visible but I can be seen clearly. Individuals as opposed to institutions gain the upper hand under such circumstances and so the “blowback” ultimately takes down the establishment, which ironically is the entire spectrum from left to right AND unbeknownst to itself, the anti-establishment is a part of that spectrum…

Exciting times we live in…


HVA

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HVA, thank you so much for your thoughtful commentary.  We live in exciting times, alright ... way too exciting for my taste.  I'm just angry about the whole thing; it burns me up that people like Robert Mercer and Steve Bannon are basically controlling world events.  You're right, Chris Wylie is just a pawn; I wonder if he realizes that now.

Reading about him, I found it interesting that he is so fascinated by the law; the article says: 'What I observe now is how much he loves the law, lawyers, precision, order. ... What he cannot tolerate is bullying.'  He now has a law degree from the London School of Economics; I don't know how he managed to do this, when it says he never even graduated from high school.  Then he went on to begin a PhD in fashion trend forecasting (the things you can get PhDs in these days!)  I figure his 9th house is probably important, given that amongst its significations are both the law and higher education; sure wish we knew his birth time.

With all the new dirt coming out about Trump's relations with various women, I'm hoping he may yet get impeached, or choose to resign rather than have it all come out in public.  After reading Michael Wolff's book Fire and Fury, I am more scandalized than ever that this man is the President of the United States.  I can't get much more scared, but knowing that things are being stage managed behind the scenes by people we don't even know about is doing a good job of scaring me more.  Enough!   
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I think the other thing that is new, and only emerging, is the transparency of a translucent core. Far from being ignorant, the masses are learning and adapting quickly.

The March of Our Lives, like the Arab Spring, like Occupy Wall Street... these are not movements that are somehow conceived of by the left and socialists. They appear to be organic and swell in waves, but then I think they lose power when in fact the socialists try and co-opt the movement. The waves just fizzle out. It's something else entirely... Something to watch... and that is what is exciting... hopeful... the students from MSD have explicitly stated that they are "not-for-sale." That is an important stance to hold and be faithful to or else I'm afraid this movement to will dissipate.

We'll see...

Peace,

HVA 

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Mark Zuckerberg will testify before the House Energy and Commerce Committee on April 11.

Dynamic Quad Wheel* for April 11 (noon used):
https://tinyurl.com/Quad-Wheel

* Birth time source (same used by astrotheme): a rectification from http://laurendelsack.wordpress.com/2011/01/17/birth-time-rectification-facebooks-mark-zuckerberg/

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Thanks, Antonio.  Sure wish we had his birth time.

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Thanks Pam for this interesting discussion. Interesting how he and Zuckerberg both have Mars Rx. His opposition to Mars Rx is pretty wide while Zuckerberg was born on a synodic cycle of Mars and possibly on a full moon. Taurus and Scorpio combo can have fascist tendencies. Glad he's got so many PC traits otherwise.

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Thanks, In Stitches.  Interesting observations.