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tno 2018 VG18
« on: December 18, 2018, 05:51:15 PM »
http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/2018-vg18-farout-dwarf-planet-06732.html
 
as of 1948 it MIGHT be around 1° gemini
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_VG18
 
They have only observed it for a month.
Should look promising. H=3.6
 
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Re: tno 2018 VG18
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2018, 03:50:46 PM »
tomorrow(20 dec) the comet conjuncts 2018 VG18

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Re: tno 2018 VG18
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2018, 10:33:54 AM »
SO, IF that orbit calculation is right, like a really big IF
whenever jupiter conjuncts an object it enhances it, I have FmE, i'm still running at 70
 
Fm VG18 people are
bob dylan + uranus, and maybe the A
peter higgs (higgs-bozon particle)
john kennedy
dean martin   ya right
nostradamus+ saturn+mars
 
what? is there shape shifting going on here.
 
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Re: tno 2018 VG18
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2018, 10:24:28 AM »
the real astrological period = 850 years. in the pythagoras/buddha chart(the great transformation) of 12 may 574 BC  VG18 is only 20 degrees away from the great conjunction of pluto, neptune, uranus, jupiter, mars, mercury and the sun. So if the object is faster it might conjunct the above. We shall see next year.

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Re: tno 2018 VG18
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2018, 06:19:07 PM »
when an object conjuncts sirius/canopus
something happens

when VG18 conjuncts these 2 bright stars
columbus and davinci were born
the gutenburg bible was printed

maybe the calculations r right
so above so below

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Re: tno 2018 VG18
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2018, 06:08:32 AM »
       Merry Boxing Day and a prosperous New Year Jim.    Thanks for heightening our awareness of these new outer space bodies during the year.
When I was in High School my favorite expression was "GET SERIOUS".   I realize now why I used that expression....SIRiUS, at my birth was conjunct my natal MH.
      Qustion:  Are you using the programme Riyal version 3.9 to locate the coordinates of 2018 VG18 or some other program?
I tried....http://www.serennu.com/index.php....but this object is not there.
      Is Riyal a safe program to install or is there a chance of a computer crash?
« Last Edit: December 26, 2018, 06:37:28 AM by Halina »

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Re: tno 2018 VG18
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2018, 01:56:27 PM »
this is from alois at astro.com

The orbit of 2018VG18 ist still very uncertain.
 
I have used the orbital elements I could find at MPC (Minor Planet Center) https://minorplanetcenter.net/ 
and computed an ephemeris file with the pseudo-number 999042, for the years 1500 - 2100
 
According to this speculative orbit, it crossed the ecliptic in 1820 and in 1977, and was at is perihel (closest distance to the Sun) in 1828, at a distance outside of Uranus' orbit at 22 AU. This is very speculative!
 
It can be used in charts, keeping in mind that the position is highly unreliable outside of the current decade.
 
swetest -b1.1.1550greg -s10y -n51 -xs999042 -ps -fTPZBR -roundmin 
date (dmy) 1.1.1550 greg.   0:00:00 TT            version 2.07.02a
                           long         lat         distance
01.01.1550 2018 VG18       15 cn 58  -23°29'  148.292450099
01.01.1560 2018 VG18       17 cn 10  -23°52'  146.096379402
01.01.1570 2018 VG18       18 cn 23  -24°15'  143.759653740
01.01.1580 2018 VG18       19 cn 40  -24°39'  141.291980352
01.01.1590 2018 VG18       20 cn 59  -25° 2'  138.689302308
01.01.1600 2018 VG18       22 cn 22  -25°26'  135.937646392
01.01.1610 2018 VG18       23 cn 48  -25°51'  133.027178135
01.01.1620 2018 VG18       25 cn 19  -26°15'  129.968594815
01.01.1630 2018 VG18       26 cn 53  -26°41'  126.737899182
01.01.1640 2018 VG18       28 cn 35  -27° 6'  123.348567934
01.01.1650 2018 VG18        0 le 21  -27°32'  119.788575015
01.01.1660 2018 VG18        2 le 15  -27°59'  116.046283280
01.01.1670 2018 VG18        4 le 16  -28°25'  112.103204989
01.01.1680 2018 VG18        6 le 28  -28°52'  107.969230167
01.01.1690 2018 VG18        8 le 50  -29°20'  103.609131618
01.01.1700 2018 VG18       11 le 27  -29°47'   99.036766376
01.01.1710 2018 VG18       14 le 20  -30°13'   94.236223151
01.01.1720 2018 VG18       17 le 33  -30°39'   89.176288851
01.01.1730 2018 VG18       21 le  9  -31° 3'   83.830630581
01.01.1740 2018 VG18       25 le 18  -31°23'   78.207628660
01.01.1750 2018 VG18        0 vi  7  -31°38'   72.254597651
01.01.1760 2018 VG18        5 vi 50  -31°41'   65.985177199
01.01.1770 2018 VG18       12 vi 45  -31°27'   59.362153135
01.01.1780 2018 VG18       21 vi 22  -30°38'   52.395834983
01.01.1790 2018 VG18        2 li 24  -28°46'   45.087410796
01.01.1800 2018 VG18       16 li 59  -24°46'   37.622302440
01.01.1810 2018 VG18        6 sc 54  -16°33'   30.434914124
01.01.1820 2018 VG18        4 sa 39   -0°56'   24.793458260
01.01.1830 2018 VG18       12 cp 38   19°40'   23.139820254
01.01.1840 2018 VG18       24 aq 34   30°22'   26.610676274
01.01.1850 2018 VG18       25 pi 26   29°19'   33.088678715
01.01.1860 2018 VG18       14 ar 17   25° 1'   40.474408732
01.01.1870 2018 VG18       26 ar 19   20°45'   47.926836483
01.01.1880 2018 VG18        4 ta 43   17° 7'   55.109077523
01.01.1890 2018 VG18       10 ta 58   14° 6'   61.957907739
01.01.1900 2018 VG18       15 ta 56   11°33'   68.439241182
01.01.1910 2018 VG18       19 ta 59    9°23'   74.588295949
01.01.1920 2018 VG18       23 ta 26    7°30'   80.409564294
01.01.1930 2018 VG18       26 ta 23    5°51'   85.941342128
01.01.1940 2018 VG18       29 ta  0    4°22'   91.177925516
01.01.1950 2018 VG18        1 ge 20    3° 3'   96.151749301
01.01.1960 2018 VG18        3 ge 28    1°52'  100.868204887
01.01.1970 2018 VG18        5 ge 25    0°46'  105.374586169
01.01.1980 2018 VG18        7 ge 13   -0°15'  109.646699636
01.01.1990 2018 VG18        8 ge 54   -1°11'  113.723381783
01.01.2000 2018 VG18       10 ge 28   -2° 3'  117.595673683
01.01.2010 2018 VG18       11 ge 58   -2°51'  121.278646312
01.01.2020 2018 VG18       13 ge 22   -3°37'  124.775594514
01.01.2030 2018 VG18       14 ge 43   -4°21'  128.119761307
01.01.2040 2018 VG18       16 ge  0   -5° 2'  131.286060210
01.01.2050 2018 VG18       17 ge 14   -5°41'  134.303803306
 
 
And here in 1-month steps for the current epoch, all geocentric.
 
swetest -b1.1.2018 -s30 -n18 -xs999042 -ps -fTPZBR -roundmin 
date (dmy) 1.1.2018 greg.   0:00:00 TT            version 2.07.02a
 
01.01.2018 2018 VG18       13 ge  5   -3°28'  124.092440847
31.01.2018 2018 VG18       12 ge 55   -3°28'  124.470832376
02.03.2018 2018 VG18       12 ge 52   -3°28'  124.991169464
01.04.2018 2018 VG18       12 ge 55   -3°27'  125.519099192
01.05.2018 2018 VG18       13 ge  5   -3°27'  125.924680347
31.05.2018 2018 VG18       13 ge 19   -3°27'  126.115794058
30.06.2018 2018 VG18       13 ge 33   -3°28'  126.056135957
30.07.2018 2018 VG18       13 ge 44   -3°29'  125.769060774
29.08.2018 2018 VG18       13 ge 50   -3°30'  125.331164823
28.09.2018 2018 VG18       13 ge 49   -3°31'  124.857422665
28.10.2018 2018 VG18       13 ge 42   -3°32'  124.477339979
27.11.2018 2018 VG18       13 ge 29   -3°33'  124.302675032
27.12.2018 2018 VG18       13 ge 16   -3°33'  124.393199464
26.01.2019 2018 VG18       13 ge  5   -3°33'  124.734093089
25.02.2019 2018 VG18       13 ge  0   -3°32'  125.238293332
27.03.2019 2018 VG18       13 ge  2   -3°32'  125.775008655
26.04.2019 2018 VG18       13 ge 11   -3°32'  126.210664067
26.05.2019 2018 VG18       13 ge 24   -3°32'  126.444587891

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Re: tno 2018 VG18
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2020, 11:20:42 AM »
new data for the orbit is in.
as of 1948, it was 4 degrees off, backwards that is. before 1° gemini, now 27° tau
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Re: tno 2018 VG18
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2020, 08:39:09 PM »
in 1865 neptune conjunct it, The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution (conditional prohibition of slavery and involuntary servitude) passes narrowly, in the House of Representatives.

gandhi was born 1869 with sun opposing neptune+ VG18

it should be called the vitruvian man
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Re: tno 2018 VG18
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2020, 08:30:54 PM »
John Kennedy  has mercury + mars + jupiter conjunct it
Bob Dylan        has moon+ jupiter + saturn + uranus + sun conjunct it
Pope John Paul has mercury + ceres + venus + sun conjunct it

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Re: tno 2018 VG18
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2020, 07:36:48 PM »
in 1905 in einstein chart VG18 + jupiter conjuncts einstein's neptune

columbus + davinci had pluto conjunct it