Author Topic: Chart question  (Read 2754 times)

Offline Stacy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2648
Chart question
« on: August 01, 2019, 07:22:41 AM »
Forum:

Mercury rules me and also the other party in authority (h.10) I think that's how that's interpreted!

Anyway, cj NN in h. 11 trine NE in h. 7 (the Issue) would that mean Y or N?

With NE there I would assume the matter is unclear. But trine NN looks good.

Jup in h. 4 (housing issue) trine Moon (me -quesited; housing) in h. 12 (nursing home) cj Mars-Sun and cj VE in 11 as part of cluster. VE sq UR so I would read that separate from Leo cluster (Mars-Mo-Su).


Comments much appreciated.

Stacy
« Last Edit: August 01, 2019, 08:02:12 AM by Stacy »
"If a man hasn't found something he will die for, he isn't fit to live."  MLK Jr.

Offline Daleth

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 306
Re: Chart question
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2019, 11:44:05 AM »
When the same planet rules you both I would look even more to the Moon than you usually do in horary. It may be that Mercury goes to them and Moon to you. Is there an aspect between Moon and Mercury?

Although, I'm not sure about your allocation of planets to issues. Trying to reconstitute the chart you're describing, it's Virgo rising, Gemini MC/Sag IC (Jupiter there), Moon in Leo 12th. And you're asking about a housing issue, so the "quesited" is 4th/Jupiter. You (Mercury/Moon) are the quesitor.

So why is a "person in authority"/10th house part of the answer? Why is Neptune 7th "the Issue"?

Long story short, could you share the actual question or some paraphrase of it with identifying info removed?

Offline Stacy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2648
Re: Chart question
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2019, 04:35:19 PM »
Hi Daleth:

I thought the 10th of authority would refer to just that--in my case the board of directors and decision makers over my application and tenancy to this facility. They are very conservative, slow, cautious--all 10th house attributes so this seems fitting.

Was under the impression h.7 was "the issue". Darn--I went thru and deleted extra charts from my Astrodienst account to make room for more and accidentally sent this one packing. However, it was something like "HAVE THEY MADE A DECISION YET?". I may give it a day and ask again in a different manner and post that since I deleted the original chart before I could post here. Been having consistent Wifi issues here.

Mercury was 24 Cancer; just stationed D.

Thanks so much for your input and assistance !

Stacy
« Last Edit: August 01, 2019, 04:43:10 PM by Stacy »
"If a man hasn't found something he will die for, he isn't fit to live."  MLK Jr.

Offline Stacy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2648
Re: Chart question
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2019, 04:55:05 PM »
This may be it Daleth: "WILL THEY TAKE ME?"
"If a man hasn't found something he will die for, he isn't fit to live."  MLK Jr.

Offline Daleth

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 306
Re: Chart question
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2019, 07:39:33 AM »
Who are "they"? The board of directors/decision makers as to what type of facility, what type of application?

If you were applying for a job, I would agree: 10th. If you were applying to a cooperative apartment building to see if you would be allowed to live there, 4th is more on point. If you're applying to graduate school, 9th. And so forth.

The 7th isn't "the issue" in general. It's 7th-house issues: marriage, business partners, steady creative partnerships (a la Lennon-McCartney), opposing parties in lawsuits, etc.

Offline Stacy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2648
Re: Chart question
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2019, 09:19:07 AM »
The Board of Directors/Admin in charge of this assisted living facility.
Not 10th house?
"If a man hasn't found something he will die for, he isn't fit to live."  MLK Jr.

Offline Daleth

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 306
Re: Chart question
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2019, 06:03:29 AM »
The Board of Directors/Admin in charge of this assisted living facility.
Not 10th house?

Not unless you're applying for a job at the assisted living facility. If you're applying to live there, it's not a 10th-house question.

Generally places that you live, as well as landlords, fall under the 4th house. However, since this is an assisted living facility, a.k.a. nursing home, it might actually be represented by the 12th house. Personally I would be more inclined to look at the 12th for this, especially since the Moon often represents something important about the question and the Moon here is in the 12th house.

Assuming that being accepted to live at this facility is the real question here, then you want to look for aspects between "you" (Mercury, the ascendant ruler; and the Moon) and the ruler of the appropriate house (Jupiter for 4th house or the Sun for 12th).

« Last Edit: August 07, 2019, 06:18:11 AM by Daleth »

Offline Stacy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2648
Re: Chart question
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2019, 06:30:52 AM »
Ok, thanx daleth.

So I have a nice [separating] trine between MOON - JUPITER;
MERCURY is cj NN (good) but separating and opposite PLUTO.

Any tips on which is strongest and separating significance?

"If a man hasn't found something he will die for, he isn't fit to live."  MLK Jr.

Offline Stacy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2648
Re: Chart question
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2019, 08:23:24 AM »
Asking a different way after some time has passed:
"AM I MOVING THERE?"

By the way, additional questions about prior charts covering same material basically involve JUPITER in h.4 usually or Trine MOON. JUP is Rx. Would that mean a delay?

What about a SEPARATING Trine? Say Sun or Moon as in current and last question which are both Trine JUP in 4. Sun is applying almost perfected and Moon is 2 degrees past the Trine, I think. Trying to google the meaning.

Thanks for any tips Daleth, Forum. I can't begin to convey how important this issue is for me, the many ways my quality of life will be improved which is why I ask in different ways after some time has passed and using different charts (LRs, Regio., TPs).

Stacy
« Last Edit: August 07, 2019, 08:49:51 AM by Stacy »
"If a man hasn't found something he will die for, he isn't fit to live."  MLK Jr.

Offline Daleth

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 306
Re: Chart question
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2019, 04:59:31 AM »
If a significator is retrograde, then yes, that could mean delay, or reneging/going back on something. So *if* Jupiter is a significator, in other words if you're looking at the correct houses and Jupiter rules one of them or is located in one of them, then that would be relevant.

Now, with the caveat that I'm not a horary expert, everything I've ever read about horary says that separating aspects don't count. That is, a separating aspect tells you about something that already happened, so it doesn't tell you about what is going to happen.

Offline Stacy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2648
Re: Chart question
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2019, 06:10:46 AM »
Jupiter doesn't rule a house per se, just keeps showing up in the 4th of LRs, TPs and some Horary charts and we know is a beneficial influence. Has trined MOON in several of these charts so there is a pattern.  *AMENDMENT: In the current TP eff thru 9/6 JUPITER R. H. 1 and is in H. 4 involved in an approaching TRINE from MOON in H. 2.

However, it will S D Aug. 11 so perhaps I should hold off asking more chart questions until then. I plan on calling them directly myself so, again, maybe best off waiting a few days for that.

In addition, MY N 4th H. Ruler IS URANUS WHICH WILL S RX ON THE SAME DAY, AUG 11, so I would presume that would carry more weight.

Again, my 2 LRs in this thread address the same question and am wondering what you make of them if you wouldn't mind taking a quick peek. My nail/cuticle biting and other anxiety disorder manifestations is in high gear. Quite serious.

Thanks again,
Stacy
« Last Edit: August 08, 2019, 06:20:41 AM by Stacy »
"If a man hasn't found something he will die for, he isn't fit to live."  MLK Jr.