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Offline James Williams

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Re: Systems' Approach to Interpreting Jyotisha Horoscopes
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2021, 06:00:52 AM »
bjork, this is about the fourth or fifth time you've posted that on one of my threads.

Looks to me like you're pretty obsessed and intense and stubborn about it...

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Re: Systems' Approach to Interpreting Jyotisha Horoscopes
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2021, 06:05:37 AM »
OK more clues to the second "mystery" man above...these are notes to myself that I wrote earlier today, so they may not be understandable to most...but for more info, you can check out the book, How To Study Divisional Charts, by V.K. Choudhry and K. Rajesh Chaudhary.

During the subperiods of the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Saturn, Rahu and Ketu, the native earned and accumulated wealth by his own efforts.  During the subperiods of the Moon, Sun, Mars, and Jupiter, the native's earnings and accumulations came naturally without much effort (D2 chart).

The prime indicator of wealth (and assets) for him is Mercury.  Jupiter is the significator for good financial gains.  Venus is the general significator for wealth, assets, luxuries, and comforts.  Both Sun (expansions) and Moon (fortune, luck) are well-placed and unafflicted in the natal chart.

Functional benefic Jupiter makes a close aspect to the MEP of the 2nd House of wealth in his natal chart.

The significator planets for assets are the Moon, Mars, and Venus.  In Turyamsha D4 (Net Assets), Leo is the lagna, and the Sun is in Leo in the 1st, and aspected by Rahu from the 9th, and Saturn from the 4th, ruling the 7th.  Rahu also aspects Mercury in the 3rd, ruler of the 2nd.  Venus is in Taurus in the 10th, and is aspected by the rulers of the 9th, 5th, and 7th Houses in D4.  The ruler of the 7th aspects the debilitated ruler of the 5th from the 4th.  Mars and Venus are in mutual aspect from the 4th and 10th in D4.




"There is no step along the road that anyone takes by chance. It has already been taken by him, although he has not yet embarked on it. For time but seems to go in one direction. We undertake a journey that is over. Yet it seems to have a future still unknown to us." "  (Jesus).

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Re: Systems' Approach to Interpreting Jyotisha Horoscopes
« Reply #47 on: August 14, 2021, 09:21:27 AM »
Hi James, I sent my answer by email.....I never heard of the guy.....famous, maybe, but not well-known.   
His vedic chart below fits all you your planet clues.

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Re: Systems' Approach to Interpreting Jyotisha Horoscopes
« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2021, 02:45:57 PM »
You're two for two Halina!
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Re: Systems' Approach to Interpreting Jyotisha Horoscopes
« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2021, 09:27:41 AM »
Halina, any asteroid indicators as to this man's wealth in his Western horoscope that you posted?
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Re: Systems' Approach to Interpreting Jyotisha Horoscopes
« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2021, 05:23:17 AM »
This man's wealth and power is easily seen in looking at his Jyotisha charts.

Not so with his Western horoscope.

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Arnault,_Bernard

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Re: Systems' Approach to Interpreting Jyotisha Horoscopes
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2021, 06:58:25 AM »
Hi James, I'm away from home and no access to astrological charts.....will have to wait until Tuesday.

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Re: Systems' Approach to Interpreting Jyotisha Horoscopes
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2021, 09:54:03 AM »
Hi James,    "No so with his Western Horoscope"......don't count on this statement being correct, as you will see shortly.

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Re: Systems' Approach to Interpreting Jyotisha Horoscopes
« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2021, 10:57:02 AM »
Hi James,    "Not so with his Western Horoscope"......don't count on this statement being correct, as you will see shortly, James.
       In August, 2021, he was procclaimed the richest man in the world.     This is shown more clearly in his Tropical chart biwheel 
than in his Vedic chart.    Asteroids actually name the person.    Much more detail is shown in Tropical astrology with asteroids.
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Re: Systems' Approach to Interpreting Jyotisha Horoscopes
« Reply #54 on: August 17, 2021, 07:20:35 AM »
Interesting figure and chart, James.

The emphasized Moon at MC, in Taurus, suggests to me that personal security is linked to and satisfied by professional emphasis on material matters (money, tangible values, ownership). And what if this Moon is natally contacted by Pluto? That could magnify or intensify the drive for material acquisition in a dramatic or extreme way – which fits here, with his prominent Moon being squared by a perceptive, business-oriented Pluto-Mercury opposition. This forms a Fixed T-Square naturally equipped for a lifetime of acquiring, maintaining, and enjoying wealth. 

Coincidentally, Carlos Ghosn, a prominent figure also associated with enjoying money and a rich lifestyle, has the same Pisces Sun-Taurus Moon blend as Arnauld. Actually, since Ghosn lived in France and was Renault chief for awhile, bet he and Arnault crossed paths at some point. Hope they compared charts… ;)

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Re: Systems' Approach to Interpreting Jyotisha Horoscopes
« Reply #55 on: August 17, 2021, 07:52:04 AM »
Thanks pdw...it would have been interesting if Arnault had had a consultation when he was an early adult, and asked if he would be wealthy someday.  It's much easier to see with his Jyotisha charts, as there are many more indicators and significators than in his Western horoscope.  Ditto especially with the timing of his wealth.

But as you point out, the psychological need press and personal perspective is there in his Western chart.  And yet many have Moon in Taurus at the MC and contacted by Mercury-Pluto who are not the least bit wealthy.

Too bad we don't have Ghosn's birth info...

Thanks again pdw for weighing in...

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Re: Systems' Approach to Interpreting Jyotisha Horoscopes
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2021, 08:04:22 AM »
A friend of mine who has been dead for years had sun in pisces and moon in taurus and she WAS NOT wealthy-just the opposite.  She was dependent on her mom and brother to help her out.  However,she had sun in the 6th house and the moon, saturn and jupiter in taurus in the 8th house.  ISn't the 8th house "other people's money" ?   amy