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Offline Ken Haining

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Re: Eris
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2023, 10:59:49 AM »
Hi Halina

As I have said, Eris, because of its very slow orbit, is like a planetary node.  Although it doesn't move much over a few years, every chart will have personalized aspects to the Eris position. 

On Adolf Hitler's chart, he had Eris at 19 degrees 2 minutes Pisces, which sextiles his tight Venus-Mars conjunction, and is quincunx his Uranus, and more broadly quincunx his Saturn, making Eris on a YOD point.  His Eris also trines his Lunar North Node.  Perhaps this accounts for his amazing speaking ability and radical message.  Grant Lewi pinpointed Hitler's destructive aspect as Mars square Saturn, which Lewi notes causes a person to go too far too fast.  They are powerful individuals, but allow their personal power to make them over confident, and thus they often destroy themselves, which Grant Lewi predicted Hitler would do when Lewi wrote about it in 1940, in his book, Astrology for the Millions. 

Thanks for that overview.  I am wondering how many astrologers are looking at Eris, or using it on a regular basis in their study of Natal Charts, and in doing readings for clients? 

My Natal Eris has a square from Chiron, and no other Major Ptolemaic Aspects to it.  Maybe that is one of the indicators of my chaotic life. 

Ken


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Re: Eris
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2023, 10:28:07 PM »
In terms of meaning, I don't like to venture too far from the idea of strife, discord, AND the ability/need to navigate through chaotic circumstances. 

For me, it tightly aspects my Sun in both my natal and conception charts.  (square 0° 14* orb natal, opposition 1° orb in conception chart)

It is tied to core functions for me...and though I have had chaotic circumstances to go through, I do tend to make my way through them and come out better on the other side.  [I am sure the Jupiter-Sun-Neptune grand trine is responsible for part of it!] 

James Eshelman is one of the astrologers, who is doing research on Eris.  The "navigating chaos" idea came (to me) directly from his research and confirmed, observing it in charts. 

Ken, here are your solar arcs involving Eris for most of your life... 

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Re: Eris
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2023, 06:44:38 AM »
Hi Ken, natally you have Sun, r8, inheritance opp Eris in 3rd of brothers.
When you found out about the will's distriubution to your brothers do
you have the date of that event?   Is the Solar Arc for that event in OD's
list of your Solar Arcs?

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Re: Eris
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2023, 10:56:14 AM »
Hi OD'd James Alexander

I don't have the exact date, but it was close to the February 10, 1991 when the Supreme Leader of that religious "fellowship" asked to see me privately at his church.  I was two or three months later that I made my way over there and had an intense indoctrination session.  It effected me at first, but wore off fairly quickly, and I once again found myself at odds with the crazy structure and teachings of that religious organization. 

The June 21, 2012 date was when I was homeless in Colorado Springs, and I had arrived there, from Little Rock, Arkansas, on June 1, 2012.

Not sure if anything was going on with those other dates, but I didn't keep a journal, so there may have been things I have forgotten that would fit the navigating chaos experience.  As I noted, most of my life has been chaotic, even from my very early years. 

Thanks for that list of Solar Arcs.  Have you looked at Solar Arc Eris on your chart?

Ken


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Re: Eris
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2023, 11:00:48 AM »
Hi Halina

The approximate date that I learned that I had been written down on my mother's will was September 9, 2009.  She passed away on September 3, 2009, and one of my half brothers mailed me the documents to look over and sign.  That is when I learned that I had been written down on the will, and my half brothers would not tell me how much the estate was estimated to be worth.  The way my half brothers treated me and handled the whole affair let me know that I was an outsider as far as they were concerned. 

None of the dates that OD'd James listed, for Solar Arc Eris on my chart, were around that time. 

Ken


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Re: Eris
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2023, 11:06:26 PM »
Re: "She passed away on September 3, 2009"
 
At that time, you had Saturn semisquare 8th (limited/restricted inheritance) and Eris was on the IC with Pluto at the Ascendant!  Had you gotten "your share," it would have likely made you able to live more autonomously.  Pluto semisquared Venus (emotions around saying goodbye to loved ones, thug tactics relating to your ability to have a little luxury/joy/security).   
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Re: Eris
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2023, 09:45:11 AM »
Hi OD'd James Alexander

Eris was on my IC for quite a while, as it is at most points for quite a while with its passage through the Sign of Aries.  What a slow moving object!  That is why I was looking at Solar Arc Eris, as Solar Arcs go at the same rate, following the Progressed Sun. 

When I broke off that religious group I was in, in April of 1994, Solar Arc Eris was at 19 degrees 9 minutes Taurus, conjunct my Natal Jupiter at 19 degrees 26 minutes Taurus.  This kicked off some real chaos, to say the least.  When it came to fully conjunct that position of Natal Jupiter, in August of 1994, I gave up my rented church building, and that was "the beginning of the end" of my religious career, and that was a good thing.  I could write volumes on organized religion in America today, and why it is good to avoid most of it, but that is another subject. 

Have you looked at Solar Arc Eris on your chart?  As Noel Tyl noted, in his book, Solar Arcs, Astrology's Most Successful Predictive System, the Solar Arcs tend to be very precise in many cases. So, I would think that using Solar Arc Eris would be a way of validating Eris as an object on the level of the other planets, or planetoids.  It is also a good way to test the chaotic element of Eris.  The above example seems to bear that out.  Have you experienced any particularly chaotic times in your life where Solar Arc Eris was in play?  Or, do you have other examples, from other charts, where this is the case?  Let me know, if you take a look at Solar Arc Eris on your chart and others, what you see.

Ken


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Re: Eris
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2023, 08:13:30 AM »
hI ken, here is your natal in a triwheel for April, 1994 using asteroids CHURCH
ERIS, CHAOS.   Solar Arcs and Transits added....it's very descriptive for the event.

            https://i.postimg.cc/nrHQy7Sf/Haining-Church-Chaos.jpg

                         

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Re: Eris
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2023, 08:47:48 AM »
Re: "Have you looked at Solar Arc Eris on your chart?"

Yes, but since you have asked, I decided to do the life printout of 8th harmonic solar arcs from my epoch chart.   

Solar Arc Eris square Moon, when my brother Darin was born.
 
Solar Arc Eris square Jupiter, when I got my first place, state math award.

Solar Arc Eris opposite Neptune, when we had a miscarriage.

Solar Arc Eris square Pluto, when I got Covid and was longer isolated from work. 
 
In terms of my natal chart,
 
Solar Arc Eris square Ascendant, when my brother Darin was born.

Solar Arc Eris semisquare Jupiter, when I graduated high school. 

Solar Arc Eris semisquare Midheaven, when I went to Germany and completely changed the course of my life. 

Solar Arc Eris square Pluto, when my (biological) Father died. 
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Re: Eris
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2023, 09:00:42 AM »
Hi Halina

Thanks for that very comprehensive chart.   There is an asteroid called Religion.  Figures.  There are so many asteroids.  Interesting that both Chaos and Eris were conjunct my Natal Jupiter.  Double chaos!  It was a crazy time in my crazy life, for sure.

Ken


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Re: Eris
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2023, 10:00:07 AM »
Hi Ken, thanks for that asteroid Religion.....will add it to my list.
On the other hand, you will be subject to 50 lashes....there is NO
asteroid named Religion.
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Re: Eris
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2023, 10:27:53 AM »
Hello again, Halina

Sorry.  On that chart that you did for me you had a line going to an object that I did not recognize, and it said, Religion.  I think it is actually Poseidon, as that is next to the object as well.  I thought you had discovered another asteroid. 

Ken